From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Sebastien Vauban" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to delay loading of packages (when eval-after-load does notapply)? Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:40:56 +0200 Organization: Sebastien Vauban Message-ID: <801uj1zqg7.fsf@somewhere.org> References: <804no4c64n.fsf@somewhere.org> <80pq6pygox.fsf@somewhere.org> <80sjblk9ar.fsf@somewhere.org> <80zk5tv04z.fsf@somewhere.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1345466713 6878 80.91.229.3 (20 Aug 2012 12:45:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 12:45:13 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Mon Aug 20 14:45:14 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T3RM1-0000mR-LN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:45:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51594 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T3RM0-0006JY-BW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 08:45:12 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.stack.nl!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 75 Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="368fa3c7dc5c1bbe516391bd65bd1ab2"; logging-data="10919"; mail-complaints-to="abuse-VVbKFVtnif8H+i2N2EyTrmui9UKz+5OX@public.gmane.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1868zZOyhyQO0wqqT1bs2bn" User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1 (windows-nt) X-Archive: encrypt Cancel-Lock: sha1:xenkdhMLg4a9Yu1tghcKjqsqCNA= sha1:KKA6kpxMc1xblRfC2GEFcg0AZMQ= X-Url: Under construction... Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:194063 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:86430 Archived-At: Hi Raffaele, "Sebastien Vauban" wrote: > Raffaele Ricciardi wrote: >> On 08/17/2012 01:11 PM, Sebastien Vauban wrote: >>> Now, wanting to apply the same mechanism for other slow parts of my .emacs >>> file, I'm stuck with this one[1]: >>> >>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >>> ;; add the ability to copy or cut the current line without marking it >>> ;; (no active region) -- idea stolen from SlickEdit >>> (defadvice kill-ring-save (before slickcopy activate compile) >>> "When called interactively with no active region, copy the current >>> line instead." >>> (interactive >>> (if mark-active (list (region-beginning) (region-end)) >>> (message "Copied the current line") >>> (list (line-beginning-position) >>> (line-beginning-position 2))))) >>> >>> (defadvice kill-region (before slickcut activate compile) >>> "When called interactively with no active region, kill the current >>> line instead." >>> (interactive >>> (if mark-active (list (region-beginning) (region-end)) >>> (list (line-beginning-position) >>> (line-beginning-position 2))))) >>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >> >> See http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/WholeLineOrRegion >> >> Note the use of `use-region-p' instead of 'mark-active'. > > I don't understand all the subtleties, except that it uses a function directly > defined in `simple.el', but it does a great job: no noticeable delay! After using it for a couple of "workable" hours, I must say that the code found on EmacsWiki does not work as good (at least from my point of view) as the code above. Two (minor) problems found: - With the above code, when killing multiple subsequent lines, they are merged as one entry in the kill ring. With the code from EW, they stay separate entries. - With the above code, I can paste the "copied line" wherever I want, including in the middle of a line: Some *sentence (* = position of point) becomes: Some YANKED TEXT*sentence With the code from EW, the yanked text is inserted above the current line, as if point was at the beginning of line when I'm yanking. Some *sentence (* = position of point) becomes: YANKED TEXT *Some sentence BTW, point's position is changed after yanking. Do you observe that as well? Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban