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From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
To: "Ken Manheimer" <ken.manheimer@gmail.com>
Cc: sdl.web@gmail.com, Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz>,
	cyd@stupidchicken.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: python.el versus python-mode.el [was Re: python.el fixes for Emacs 22]
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:39:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vpruxray1.fsf_-_@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2cd46e7f0802151622s8e191et63074c2cc6211610@mail.gmail.com> (Ken Manheimer's message of "Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:22:56 -0500")

"Ken Manheimer" wrote:

> i do hope someone could describe the differences.  i'm curious why
> something besides python-mode.el was even necessary in the first
> place.  just copyright assignment obstacles?

I know nothing about either mode, but the author of python.el has a ~
1000 line patch for python-mode.

http://www.loveshack.ukfsn.org/emacs/python-mode.el.diff

See also the comments at the start of python.el:

http://www.loveshack.ukfsn.org/emacs/python.el

;; There is another Python mode, python-mode.el, used by XEmacs and
;; maintained with Python.  That isn't covered by an FSF copyright
;; assignment, unlike this code, and seems not to be well-maintained
;; for Emacs (though I've submitted fixes).  This mode is rather
;; simpler and is better in other ways.  In particular, using the
;; syntax functions with text properties maintained by font-lock makes
;; it more correct with arbitrary string and comment contents.

;; This doesn't implement all the facilities of python-mode.el.  Some
;; just need doing, e.g. catching exceptions in the inferior Python
;; buffer (but see M-x pdb for debugging).  [Actually, the use of
;; `compilation-shell-minor-mode' now is probably enough for that.]
;; Others don't seem appropriate.  For instance,
;; `forward-into-nomenclature' should be done separately, since it's
;; not specific to Python, and I've installed a minor mode to do the
;; job properly in Emacs 23.  [CC mode 5.31 contains an incompatible
;; feature, `c-subword-mode' which is intended to have a similar
;; effect, but actually only affects word-oriented keybindings.]

;; Other things seem more natural or canonical here, e.g. the
;; {beginning,end}-of-defun implementation dealing with nested
;; definitions, and the inferior mode following `cmuscheme'.  (The
;; inferior mode can find the source of errors from
;; `python-send-region' & al via `compilation-shell-minor-mode'.)
;; There is (limited) symbol completion using lookup in Python and
;; Eldoc support also using the inferior process.  Successive TABs
;; cycle between possible indentations for the line.

;; Even where it has similar facilities, this mode is incompatible
;; with python-mode.el in some respects.  For instance, various key
;; bindings are changed to obey Emacs conventions.




  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-16  0:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-11 13:34 python.el fixes for Emacs 22 Richard Stallman
2008-02-11 15:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-11 21:10   ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-12  3:04     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-12 17:44       ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-12 21:40         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-13 16:32           ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-13 19:19             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-14  0:36 ` Chong Yidong
2008-02-14  0:51   ` Miles Bader
2008-02-14  1:56   ` Leo
2008-02-14 18:11     ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-14 23:42       ` Leo
2008-02-15  0:01         ` Nick Roberts
2008-02-15  0:08           ` Leo
2008-02-15  0:17             ` Miles Bader
2008-02-15  2:10             ` Nick Roberts
2008-02-15 17:57             ` Ken Manheimer
2008-02-16  5:53             ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-16  8:18               ` Leo
2008-02-16  8:35                 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-16 14:45                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-16 14:51                   ` Miles Bader
2008-02-17  3:44                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-17 13:22                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-17 13:26                 ` Piet van Oostrum
2008-02-15 12:59           ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-15 13:27             ` David Kastrup
2008-02-15 17:43               ` Ken Manheimer
2008-02-15 21:47                 ` Nick Roberts
2008-02-15 22:21                   ` Ken Manheimer
2008-02-15 23:57                     ` Nick Roberts
2008-02-16  0:22                       ` Ken Manheimer
2008-02-16  0:39                         ` Glenn Morris [this message]
2008-02-17 13:22                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-17 13:22                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-20  0:30                   ` Nick Roberts
2008-02-20  2:24                     ` pdbtrack [was Re: python.el fixes for Emacs 22] Glenn Morris
2008-02-20  2:34                       ` Nick Roberts
2008-02-20  2:56                         ` pdbtrack Glenn Morris
2008-02-21 22:40                         ` pdbtrack [was Re: python.el fixes for Emacs 22] Ken Manheimer
2008-02-21 23:35                           ` pdbtrack Glenn Morris
2008-02-22 18:00                             ` pdbtrack Ken Manheimer
2008-02-22 18:35                               ` pdbtrack Stefan Monnier
2008-02-23 23:09                                 ` pdbtrack Ken Manheimer
2008-02-22 20:08                               ` pdbtrack Nick Roberts
2008-02-23 23:16                                 ` pdbtrack Ken Manheimer
2008-02-24  4:49                                   ` pdbtrack Nick Roberts
2008-02-24 15:40                                     ` pdbtrack Stefan Monnier
2008-02-24 17:00                                       ` pdbtrack Ken Manheimer
2008-02-24 20:44                                         ` pdbtrack Stefan Monnier
2008-02-21  0:20                     ` python.el fixes for Emacs 22 Ken Manheimer
2008-02-21  4:02                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-21  5:12                         ` Barry Warsaw
2008-02-21 22:28                           ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-21 23:00                             ` Barry Warsaw
2008-02-21 23:08                               ` Ken Manheimer
2008-02-21 23:12                                 ` Barry Warsaw
2008-02-22  1:49                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-22 13:44                                     ` Barry Warsaw
2008-02-22 15:13                                       ` skip
2008-02-22 15:30                                         ` Barry Warsaw
2008-02-22 22:57                               ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-22 22:57                               ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-22  3:23                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-22 13:45                               ` Barry Warsaw
2008-02-22 16:28                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-22 17:05                                   ` Barry Warsaw
2008-02-22 17:13                                     ` Ken Manheimer
2008-02-22 18:27                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-22 19:38                                       ` Barry Warsaw
2008-02-23 19:28                                         ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-23 20:16                                           ` skip
2008-02-22 22:57                                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-22 23:33                                   ` Barry Warsaw
2008-02-23 19:29                                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-23  0:09                                   ` skip
2008-02-25 13:53                                     ` Bernhard Herzog
2008-02-21  5:09                       ` Barry Warsaw
2008-02-21  5:22                       ` Nick Roberts
2008-02-15 16:51             ` Chong Yidong

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