From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:04:03 -0500 Message-ID: <7l8tdu7ffg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87y3lwgnce.fsf@hornet.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <83r2rnnb8l.fsf@gnu.org> <87po77ho28.fsf@gmx.com> <83po77n9h3.fsf@gnu.org> <87lghvhjij.fsf@gmx.com> <83lghvm8dd.fsf@gnu.org> <83mv2alij6.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1513969396 24057 195.159.176.226 (22 Dec 2017 19:03:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 19:03:16 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) Cc: basilio@gmx.com, 29801@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 22 20:03:11 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eSSb8-0005l8-9A for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 20:03:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34523 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eSSd5-0003Ry-16 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:05:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46547) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eSScx-0003Qp-At for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:05:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eSScw-0006dE-Ee for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:05:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:39630) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eSScw-0006cx-AM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:05:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eSScv-0005lE-VH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:05:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 19:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29801 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 29801-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29801.151396945422082 (code B ref 29801); Fri, 22 Dec 2017 19:05:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29801) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2017 19:04:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48311 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eSScA-0005k5-BW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:04:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54826) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eSSc8-0005ju-U6 for 29801@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:04:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eSSc3-000611-1n for 29801@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:04:07 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eSSc0-0005zi-GP; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:04:04 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eSSbz-0000d5-PV; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:04:03 -0500 X-Spook: Matamoros Taiwan Baranyi MD5 Fusion Center SWAT doctrine X-Ran: d&P|JQT=Ja! (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 22 Dec 2017 20:33:17 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:141390 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> > "(but really Aspell \\([0-9]+\\.[0-9.]+\\([-._+ ]?[a-zA-Z0-9]+\\)?\\)?)" >> >> I see that the only thing ispell.el uses the numeric version for is to >> test if it is >= 0.60. aspell 0.60 was released in 2004. Even RHEL6 has >> aspell 0.60.6. So IMO ispell.el can discard the version checking >> entirely, and just look for "really Aspell". > > Why would we want to make a change that gains us nothing at all, and > at "best" breaks old systems? Because it future-proofs against a class of similar problems, eg (but really Aspell 0.80~beta1) (but really Aspell 0.90 "awesome code name") and because the old systems using a 13+ year-old aspell don't exist. So why do a fragile check for information that isn't needed. The amount of legacy crap in Emacs, and the refusal to relinquish it, is frustrating.