# in carbon emacs on OSX?

# in carbon emacs on OSX?

[Matthew Vernon]

Hi,

I've installed the latest emacs release (23.2.1) on OSX. It generally
works a treat, but there's a problem with #s. In every other OSX app,
I can get # by hitting alt-3. But emacs is mapping that as M-3
instead. Similarly, cmd-3 comes through as S-3 (super-3). Is there a
standard work-around for this? Failing that, can I trivially re-map
M-3 to (insert-char ?# 1) or somesuch?

Thanks,

Matthew

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Re: # in carbon emacs on OSX?

[Andrea Crotti]

Matthew Vernon <matthew@debian.org> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I've installed the latest emacs release (23.2.1) on OSX. It generally
> works a treat, but there's a problem with #s. In every other OSX app,
> I can get # by hitting alt-3. But emacs is mapping that as M-3
> instead. Similarly, cmd-3 comes through as S-3 (super-3). Is there a
> standard work-around for this? Failing that, can I trivially re-map
> M-3 to (insert-char ?# 1) or somesuch?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matthew

I use these settings for for cocoa emacs

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
  (if mac
      (progn
        (add-to-list 'exec-path "/opt/local/bin")
        (setq ns-alternate-modifier (quote none))
        ;; open a new frame only unless it's the scratch buffer
        (setq ns-pop-up-frames 1)
        (setq ns-command-modifier (quote meta))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
hope it's useful for you too

Re: # in carbon emacs on OSX?

[Matthew Vernon]

Hi,

[I should have mentioned that this is a UK keyboard, so shift-3
produces £]

Andrea Crotti <andrea.crotti.0@gmail.com> writes:

> I use these settings for for cocoa emacs
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>   (if mac

I get an error if I use this:

Symbol's value as variable is void: mac

Thanks,

Matthew

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Re: # in carbon emacs on OSX?

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 01.02.2011 um 03:24 schrieb Matthew Vernon:

> can I trivially re-map M-3 to (insert-char ?# 1) or somesuch?


Can you tell us what values the variables emacs-version and window- 
system have?

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Re: # in carbon emacs on OSX?

[Matthew Vernon]

On 1 Feb 2011, at 12:02, Peter Dyballa wrote:

> 
> Am 01.02.2011 um 03:24 schrieb Matthew Vernon:
> 
>> can I trivially re-map M-3 to (insert-char ?# 1) or somesuch?
> 
> 
> Can you tell us what values the variables emacs-version and window-system have?

emacs-version is 23.2.1 window-system is ns

Regards,

Matthew

Re: # in carbon emacs on OSX?

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 01.02.2011 um 19:07 schrieb Matthew Vernon:

> emacs-version is 23.2.1 window-system is ns


This "Cocoa" Emacs should know mac-function-modifier, mac-control- 
modifier, mac-command-modifier, and mac-option-modifier (plus mac- 
right-command-modifier, mac-right-control-modifier, mac-right-option- 
modifier). Their values can be (quoted) ctrl (or control?), alt, meta,  
super, hyper, or nil (unquoted). They're aliases of:

	ns-alternate-modifier
	   This variable describes the behavior of the alternate or option key.
	ns-command-modifier
	   This variable describes the behavior of the command key.
	ns-control-modifier
	   This variable describes the behavior of the control key.
	ns-function-modifier
	   This variable describes the behavior of the function key (on  
laptops).
	ns-option-modifier
	ns-right-alternate-modifier
	   This variable describes the behavior of the right alternate or  
option key.
	ns-right-command-modifier
	   This variable describes the behavior of the right command key.
	ns-right-control-modifier
	   This variable describes the behavior of the right control key.
	ns-right-option-modifier

Making any of them nil makes them available to Mac OS X, i.e., allows  
Mac OS X to choose the corresponding layer of the key definitions.  
Launch the "virtual keyboard" to see whether the keys still work in  
Mac OS X (when the text cursor is in Emacs).

To have an init file that works with Carbon (22.x) and NS or "Cocoa"  
Emacsen (20-24.x) and the AppKit Emacs (something like "Carbon Emacs"  
23.x) you can use the mac-*-modifier variables.

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Re: # in carbon emacs on OSX?

[Harald Hanche-Olsen]

[Matthew Vernon <matthew@debian.org>]

> I've installed the latest emacs release (23.2.1) on OSX.

Possibly these might work:

(setf mac-command-modifier 'meta)
(setf mac-option-modifier nil)

If it does, the command key becomes meta and the option key is left to
do what the OS usually thinks it should. But this is highly dependent on
what emacs you have. Just 23.2.1 is insufficient information. Do you
really mean carbon emacs? I haven't used that in ages.

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