From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#34357: Non-Emacs feeling Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 23:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <7ff543ae-576e-41db-91ae-d3279e82a6b6@default> References: <5C5B6005020000A10002F8AF@gwsmtp1.uni-regensburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="258517"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 34357@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris , Ulrich Windl Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 07 00:57:19 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1grX49-00151S-JG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Wed, 6 Feb 2019 23:56:50 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x16NunPx018639; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 23:56:50 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4795.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=9159 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1902060177 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:155204 Archived-At: > > 1: Since some versions you cannot autocomplete the buffer you are > > visiting any more: A typical use-case is that you want to visit the > > buffer you are editing in another window, like after C-x 4 b. Now you > > must completely type the buffer name, an absolute mis-feature! >=20 > This is https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps- > 3A__debbugs.gnu.org_12916&d=3DDwIBAg&c=3DRoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMU= B6 > 5eapI_JnE&r=3DkI3P6ljGv6CTHIKju0jqInF6AOwMCYRDQUmqX22rJ98&m=3DKmSwmwbI8AA= Jl > Oeq0ixSIDteKnpu_Cha09EMxTOdtl0&s=3D78IdDq_cMz2KFaVL2WvB8YLpc83ztMnbuI4HPQ > WJ--s&e=3D and bug#9598. You will find > discussion there. >=20 > > 2: When long lines are being displayed, mark up and down do not > change > > the position to the next logical line (as defined by the buffer), but > > to the displayed line (subject to screen and font size). If you are > at > > the beginning of a long line, and you want to move to the next line > > (maybe to insert something), this "change" is a nightmare. I know it > > can be customized, but why is the incompatible stupid setting the new > > default? >=20 > This changed in Emacs 23.1. I'm sure if you search mailing lists you > will find discussions from around that time. It was 10 years ago. >=20 >=20 > With that, I'm closing this report. Why not consider #1 to be an _enhancement request_ to add a user option expressing the behavior preference (i.e. whether `C-x b' offers the current buffer as one of the completion candidates). A user requests an alternate behavior - a behavior that is not difficult to realize. S?he's entitled to file an enhancement request for that. Just because Emacs currently has some behavior that does not mean that someone can't request a change to optionally allow a different behavior. And the use case presented seems reasonable.