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From: Yixuan Chen <xuan@xlk.me>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>
Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 73752@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#73752: 29.4; Ligatures are randomly rendered with extra spaces
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 11:24:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7f6a1b90-ae44-4761-92df-e3fe8a27d96d@xlk.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86iktc6zp5.fsf@gnu.org>

On 10/28/24 10:59, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>
>> Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com,  73752@debbugs.gnu.org,  xuan@xlk.me
>> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 09:56:13 +0530
>>
>> Real-life Lisp programs certainly do not change face font attributes so
>> often but I believe the script does it so to reproduce the issue
>> quickly.  In a regular Emacs session, it is enough for the same text to
>> be shown in different font sizes (as a consequence of using C-x C-+) and
>> font weights to eventually exhibit this misalignment IME.
> 
> You need to catch this situation in some reproducible recipe.  Because
> up front I don't understand how is this possible: we cache each
> composition with its font object, which includes the font size (and
> also slant, weight, etc.), so a different variant of the same font
> ought to match only cache entries that use the exact same font.  Or
> maybe I don't understand well enough what
> composition_gstring_put_cache does to compute the hash of a
> glyph-string header (which is the hash key for a composition)?
> 
>> I do not understand the technical details but the width of the glyph
>> used to draw it is not the one that should be used for the underlying
>> font (weight, size, etc. included) which leads to this misalignment.
> 
> Which seems to indicate that we somehow use a different font's metric.
> 
>> To make it more clear, let's say that =:= is shaped for a font X with a
>> specific weight, size, etc.  At a later point in time, the width of the
>> glyph corresponding to X is used to draw =:= with font Y of same family.
>> This leads to the observed misalignment AFAIU.
> 
> But how can this happen?  Without a reproducible recipe, which can be
> reproduced without waiting for too long, it is very hard to
> investigate this.

Just my uninformed opinion. Considering,
- the fact that it's hard to reproduce the problem (the script I 
submitted is the best way to trigger the problem to my knowledge since 
it reproduces on multiple people's emacs consistently),
- the non-deterministic nature of this bug,
- changing fonts rapidly seems to help triggering the bug,
- my personal research bias,

This sounds like a concurrency problem, such as some kind of race 
condition leading to cache being over-written or else. But I have zero 
idea on how emacs works internally, so I can be completely wrong.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-28 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-11 16:18 bug#73752: 29.4; Ligatures are randomly rendered with extra spaces xuan
2024-10-12  8:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-12 16:09   ` Yixuan Chen
2024-10-27 10:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-27 16:19       ` Visuwesh
2024-10-27 17:19         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-27 17:27           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-27 17:39             ` Yixuan Chen
2024-10-27 17:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-27 17:46                 ` Yixuan Chen
2024-10-27 19:14                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-27 19:36                     ` Yixuan Chen
2024-10-27 19:44                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-27 19:47                         ` Yixuan Chen
2024-10-27 20:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-27 19:41                     ` Yixuan Chen
2024-10-27 20:07                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-27 20:32                         ` Yixuan Chen
2024-10-28 14:25                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-28 14:44                             ` Yixuan Chen
2024-10-28 14:47                               ` Yixuan Chen
2024-10-28 15:05                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-28 15:20                                 ` Yixuan Chen
2024-10-28 17:19                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-28 17:26                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-28 17:28                                     ` Yixuan Chen
2024-10-28 18:41                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-28  4:26             ` Visuwesh
2024-10-28 14:59               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-28 15:24                 ` Yixuan Chen [this message]
2024-10-28 16:18                 ` Visuwesh
2024-10-28 17:13                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-29 10:59                     ` Visuwesh
2024-10-29 13:04                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-29 13:54                         ` Visuwesh
2024-10-29 14:00                           ` Visuwesh
2024-10-29 15:38                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-29 16:46                             ` Visuwesh
2024-10-29 17:45                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-30  5:43                                 ` Visuwesh
2024-10-29 16:51                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-27 17:29           ` Yixuan Chen
2024-10-29 23:14 ` Tim Ruffing
2024-10-30 15:12   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-30 15:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <mvmikt9zkcq.fsf@suse.de>
2024-10-30 15:47       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-30 17:34         ` Tim Ruffing
2024-10-30 17:46           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-30 18:00             ` Tim Ruffing
2024-10-30 18:57               ` Eli Zaretskii

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