From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default emacs init file location confusion Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 17:46:34 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <7f532a3b-a812-3088-936c-e15a35b58654@cs.ucla.edu> References: <83lfqjckjn.fsf@gnu.org> <83blrfci4q.fsf@gnu.org> <837e23chdm.fsf@gnu.org> <834kx7cgmh.fsf@gnu.org> <87tv56bjop.fsf@gmail.com> <539DBEA2-E758-4CB0-B886-F908CF0525B6@gnu.org> <83pnfuaqj3.fsf@gnu.org> <83imllc3iq.fsf@gnu.org> <87eew9q4rt.fsf@windriver.com> <83tv538d0q.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="202518"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.1 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 11 02:47:44 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iq5rw-000jhB-Nn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 11 Jan 2020 02:47:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53494 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iq5rv-0001TH-7o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2020 20:47:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47773) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iq5rL-00014X-Ht for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2020 20:46:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iq5rK-0003LF-5E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2020 20:46:39 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:54772) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iq5rI-00038v-Km; Fri, 10 Jan 2020 20:46:36 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7541600E0; Fri, 10 Jan 2020 17:46:35 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id khz0D5AnMdwb; Fri, 10 Jan 2020 17:46:34 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796221600E9; Fri, 10 Jan 2020 17:46:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 5QnzK-kzWQ9V; Fri, 10 Jan 2020 17:46:34 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5F3791600E0; Fri, 10 Jan 2020 17:46:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83tv538d0q.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:244180 Archived-At: On 1/10/20 8:57 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> I=CA=BCll see if I can test it soon, unless someone beats me to it. > Any news with this? I'd like to have this in the repository ASAP, so > that the pretest (which is expected soonish) will have it. Which version is "this"? It's kind of a long thread.... If the idea is to go back to defaulting to .emacs.d, that's a step in=20 the wrong direction. Instead, I suggest that when Emacs starts up in a=20 fresh home directory that lacks both .config/emacs and .emacs.d, Emacs=20 creates .config/emacs and sets up a symlink .emacs.d -> .config/emacs.=20 This would avoid the specific problem that Elias ran into, and is less=20 likely to cause problems in environments where user configurations live=20 in '.config'. Partly I suggest this because it's what I've already been doing by hand:=20 the symlink makes things more convenient for users who run a mixture of=20 Emacs versions, as I do.