From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CANNOT_DUMP and portable dumper Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 15:56:06 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <7f1e25e8-9b70-9aa8-8319-f47710ed5e30@cs.ucla.edu> References: <5b69c78d-1e7e-437e-b2b0-82fe055c0e07@email.android.com> <83ef8u11v1.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="115375"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 31 00:59:29 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gozlR-000Tve-5g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 00:59:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45965 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gozlQ-0004pj-70 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:59:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56364) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1goziF-0002wp-4s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:56:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1goziE-0007KD-GE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:56:11 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:59442) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1goziC-0007Io-GV; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:56:08 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1987B16108F; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 15:56:07 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id g9Nunwe_usey; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 15:56:06 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AAB161120; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 15:56:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id PJLDwPuEV7my; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 15:56:06 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33B9A161066; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 15:56:06 -0800 (PST) Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=eggert@cs.ucla.edu; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBEyAcmQBEADAAyH2xoTu7ppG5D3a8FMZEon74dCvc4+q1XA2J2tBy2pwaTqfhpxxdGA9 Jj50UJ3PD4bSUEgN8tLZ0san47l5XTAFLi2456ciSl5m8sKaHlGdt9XmAAtmXqeZVIYX/UFS 96fDzf4xhEmm/y7LbYEPQdUdxu47xA5KhTYp5bltF3WYDz1Ygd7gx07Auwp7iw7eNvnoDTAl KAl8KYDZzbDNCQGEbpY3efZIvPdeI+FWQN4W+kghy+P6au6PrIIhYraeua7XDdb2LS1en3Ss mE3QjqfRqI/A2ue8JMwsvXe/WK38Ezs6x74iTaqI3AFH6ilAhDqpMnd/msSESNFt76DiO1ZK QMr9amVPknjfPmJISqdhgB1DlEdw34sROf6V8mZw0xfqT6PKE46LcFefzs0kbg4GORf8vjG2 Sf1tk5eU8MBiyN/bZ03bKNjNYMpODDQQwuP84kYLkX2wBxxMAhBxwbDVZudzxDZJ1C2VXujC OJVxq2kljBM9ETYuUGqd75AW2LXrLw6+MuIsHFAYAgRr7+KcwDgBAfwhPBYX34nSSiHlmLC+ KaHLeCLF5ZI2vKm3HEeCTtlOg7xZEONgwzL+fdKo+D6SoC8RRxJKs8a3sVfI4t6CnrQzvJbB n6gxdgCu5i29J1QCYrCYvql2UyFPAK+do99/1jOXT4m2836j1wARAQABzSBQYXVsIEVnZ2Vy dCA8ZWdnZXJ0QGNzLnVjbGEuZWR1PsLBfgQTAQIAKAUCTIByZAIbAwUJEswDAAYLCQgHAwIG FQgCCQoLBBYCAwECH In-Reply-To: <83ef8u11v1.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:232842 Archived-At: On 1/30/19 9:39 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > is CANNOT_DUMP no longer used for systems that can > neither unexec nor use the pdumper code? Or are there no such systems > anymore? I have been using CANNOT_DUMP for testing Emacs in debugging frameworks that are incompatible with unexec. As far as I know, this was the only remaining practical use for the traditional meaning of CANNOT_DUMP (nobody was using Emacs in CANNOT_DUMP mode for ordinary use). As pdumper makes this usage obsolete, we should retire this obsolete use of CANNOT_DUMP and rename the identifier to something more reasonable (e.g., to PORTABLE_DUMP as Glenn suggested).