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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: RE: How to avoid compiler warning `unused lexical variable' for `dolist' or `dotimes'?
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 19:03:06 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7eec4142-3c37-4084-9ea1-73df5df2c821@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvpn2gkwdc.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> It's hidden because it's not at the usual place where the return value
> is usually placed (i.e. in the last expression).
> 
> There are several other macros/specialforms that also place the return
> value elsewhere than the last expression, such as `unwind-protect`, (and
> to a lesser extent `if`, `cond`, `condition-case`, `prog1`), but these
> still place the return value in one of the immediate subexpressions,
> many of them use indentation to try and make the return value "stand
> out" from the rest, etc...
> 
> In contrast in `dotimes` and `dolist` it's placed in
> a sub-sub-expression and moreover it's one that's rarely used (arguably
> *because* it's too deeply nested), so you're likely to miss it if you
> don't go looking for it very actively.
> 
> Not that it matters anyway,

FWIW, Common Lisp has several iteration constructs that let you specify an optional return value up front (as you would say, in a sub-sub-expression).  Not just `dolist' and `dotimes'.  `do', for instance.

There's nothing particularly odd, new, or unlispy about such design.  It's very old in Lisp iteration.

And most such iteration constructs wrap everything in an implicit nil block, so you can also use `return' anywhere to return a value.

https://www.cs.cmu.edu/Groups/AI/html/cltl/clm/node88.html



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-08  3:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-07  7:58 How to avoid compiler warning `unused lexical variable' for `dolist' or `dotimes'? Jean Louis
2021-01-07 10:03 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-07 11:00   ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 10:07 ` Philipp Stephani
2021-01-07 10:07   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-07 11:06     ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 11:23       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-07 11:12   ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 11:33     ` Philipp Stephani
2021-01-07 11:35       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-07 16:05         ` FW: " Drew Adams
2021-01-08  1:04           ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08  2:26             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-08  2:39               ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08  2:45                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-08  2:50               ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08  3:36                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-08  2:52               ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08  3:08               ` Drew Adams
2021-01-08  3:31                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-08  2:19           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-08  0:58         ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08  1:08           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-07 15:38       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-08  1:03         ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08  2:21           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-08  2:21             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-08  2:38             ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08  3:39               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-08  4:09                 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08  5:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-08  5:38                     ` Robert Thorpe
2021-01-08  6:22                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-08  7:10                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-09 18:57                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-01-09 19:01                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-10  9:20                             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-01-10 14:52                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-11 22:23                                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-01-08  5:40                     ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08  7:14                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-08  8:28                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-08 11:07                           ` tomas
2021-01-08 12:38                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-08 13:13                               ` tomas
2021-01-08 13:31                                 ` Philipp Stephani
2021-01-08 13:35                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-08 13:47                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-08 13:15                               ` Philipp Stephani
2021-01-08 13:31                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-08 14:03                                   ` tomas
2021-01-09  7:55                         ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09 13:15                           ` Leo Butler
2021-01-09 14:02                             ` Philipp Stephani
2021-01-09 23:06                               ` Leo Butler
2021-01-09 23:14                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-11 12:53                                   ` Leo Butler
2021-01-11 15:03                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-08  3:03             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2021-01-08  4:40               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-08 17:22                 ` Drew Adams
2021-01-08  4:48               ` How to get plist properties list? Jean Louis
2021-01-08  5:20                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-08  5:46                   ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08  6:50                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-09  7:54                       ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09  9:27                         ` tomas
2021-01-09 10:41                           ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09 16:57                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-12 20:32                           ` Jean Louis
2021-01-12 21:23                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-08  0:57       ` How to avoid compiler warning `unused lexical variable' for `dolist' or `dotimes'? Jean Louis
2021-01-07 15:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-08  1:02   ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08  1:12     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-08  2:08       ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08  2:26         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor

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