From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What does 'run' do in cperl-mode? Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <7ed2603a-8ad5-4be8-9629-0f736d8e46ae@r35g2000prm.googlegroups.com> References: <0ded5ecd-f5f6-4a8e-9d19-f61bf0401022@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <86hcad9ar4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <0bb45e96-f9f3-4451-a457-004bb5930c76@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <927b0c4a-3de2-4be5-b86a-7ffacc4d718e@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <88821130-f989-49ac-b8b1-e3cb2f5c5271@1g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <880cfe65-c525-46f7-a2e7-f76aa1168015@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <867ib4copo.fsf@eder.homelinux.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217374994 9015 80.91.229.12 (29 Jul 2008 23:43:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:43:14 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 30 01:44:04 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KNyrK-0006Rn-4k for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:44:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44328 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KNyqQ-0007iX-0P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:43:06 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!r35g2000prm.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 39 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.97.120 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1217374512 2796 127.0.0.1 (29 Jul 2008 23:35:12 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: r35g2000prm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.6.97.120; posting-account=bRPKjQoAAACxZsR8_VPXCX27T2YcsyMA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Safari/525.22, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:160696 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:56043 Archived-At: On Jul 29, 3:25 pm, Andreas Eder wrote: > Hi Xah, > > >>>>> "Xah" =3D=3D Xah writes: > > Xah> I don't see my suggestion for emacs to adapt the =E2=80=9CAlt+= =E2=80=B9key=E2=80=BA=E2=80=9D notation > Xah> should be classified as a =E2=80=9Cfeature=E2=80=9D. Between Fea= ture and Bug, i'd say > Xah> it's a bug, if forced. > > Xah> Remember, in my article > > Xah> =E2=80=9CEmacs's M-=E2=80=B9key=E2=80=BA Notation vs Alt+=E2=80= =B9key=E2=80=BA Notation=E2=80=9D > Xah> http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_meta_key.html > > Xah> The main reasons i gave are: > > Xah> =E2=80=A2 Universally understood > Xah> =E2=80=A2 Identical To Key's Label > Xah> =E2=80=A2 Meta is Alt in practice > Xah> =E2=80=A2 Keyboards don't have Meta key today > > But this just plain wrong! My Alt key does *not* generate Meta but > Alt (what a surprise) and I have a different key that generates > Meta. Meta is not Alt, not even in practice. Did you customize your emacs? My argument is applied to default emacs on Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux... Also, what keyboard and OS are you on? Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84