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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::530 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242561 Archived-At: On 21.11.2019 13:57, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Dmitry Gutov writes: > >> But, okay, we could also pre-create accounts for every email that has >> ever graced our presence on Debbugs. Then the users could do password >> recovery and voila. > > Hm... I'm not sure I totally like that idea. Creating accounts on > behalf of other people seems... coercive, somehow. It's a frequent practice, but often a marketing move, so it might feel kind of dirty to us techies. Then, and this is an option that will request less up-front effort, we can go with the "UFO" approach, and then anybody doing spelunking in the old issues would follow the link to the original report and directly email the author with a follow-up question (and ask them to register only then).