From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 21:00:44 +0000 Message-ID: <7e12c1c3c19537802fad@heytings.org> References: <7ef75c33936136eb3a20@heytings.org> <4b051070-45e0-db53-a2ca-e1f15bd1def8@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21627"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 00:51:01 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9GJ3-0005XV-FG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 00:51:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55502 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9GJ2-0001Sd-Ft for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 18:51:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58044) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9DeZ-0003Nh-Oi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 16:01:05 -0500 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:42296) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9DeM-0003qO-9n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 16:01:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1612818044; bh=fyEUQjtBlEtS8/1FPr/v8A14aS2QmqewisMSo8ILQtU=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=CGtxOZJEKvg2yRBcUHKdS3C/yujpAVaMW1v6I7QoJn9Bd3Ph0Ewy5Ugn871gdMA2/ psHgPY81VUVQGADs3863U7b+Q2BONo00Te3VJgXFVp6PTTUPn70WwIWSrp8FOnRT0b YuXRFLMN/pu+npZ41sKdPptG2NRo8Wg4Vwqx/TE64snfdCsnkuRbK9KAn3+k1bmpub nyiij31dp0WdVe0HT8+1ccqJxF+IUl+cpRPsVU7fyILquHzKJ301VfSR43c/JvT18B rp/BFSq37vaZAAPrUIXMXXaYUmrGZJDuGmnLTWGVh5C8fvIzKOE+ejoNTTHbBgb7Q9 uCDlqIVin/+Jg== In-Reply-To: <4b051070-45e0-db53-a2ca-e1f15bd1def8@yandex.ru> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264192 Archived-At: > > This won't fly because a lot of us bind 'C-z' to 'undo' (or a similar > command), and special-casing 'C-z C-z' would break that usage (calling > 'undo' several times in a row is common). > You would (of course) still be free to do this, what is proposed is only a default keybinding for a new keymap reserved for third-party packages. As I said to Stefan K, undo is already on three keys, using (I'm tempted to say "wasting") yet another key for this by default would be most regrettable.