From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 22:00:30 +0000 Message-ID: <7e12c1c3c146221c9861@heytings.org> References: <7ef75c33936136eb3a20@heytings.org> <7e12c1c3c15d0bc931e3@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10399"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ulrich Mueller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 00:57:22 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9GPB-0002aW-RZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 00:57:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42696 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9GPA-0007sI-Us for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 18:57:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47598) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9EaB-0007YB-7K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 17:00:35 -0500 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:42430) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9Ea9-0005sq-Kd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 17:00:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1612821630; bh=Ce4Ti6QoTIAORkZJ4GM+OrpvsIjHCb8fmap5yLIXCtE=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=jME/yEDweQHmOxJ2iCNMYyBP4fvzXOOXu/Y183BN7pO2SHC/KVvVh0ghn+AgiJJKx czEY5H3TzTLtpPMjBE8HqphJDItouYEbCPZF0vs/0s+rU6aYsyjnpBNn1D61hWpZBN IZHF6s2rGNLhszkhiNOjn0ipnIeYb7QjiF3l4nZi0Wg+1aB8GLizOGnV9gvMjymyD1 c4cgsN2MSUrhXjrT5OB7K7v6vo0tSH3f4EUbsCzuWkt/nL3kbsZ6y1G8B/RPyj2t8w I3ovIezGydM/fgr+7CoYNKdfiqMqkfQGh9x97RqRwXyE+R7kZgmleL6gHNnUo64QYm 6k592osj4govw== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264193 Archived-At: >> Do you really mean that it is "a large pain" to type "C-z C-z" (three >> keypresses) instead of "C-z" (two keypresses)? For something you don't >> do frequently? > > I'd say that at least on a tty I use C-z more frequently than several > other control keys. > So do I, but that still doesn't make it "a large pain" to type "C-z C-z" instead of "C-z", I guess. > > How about C-\ or C-^? > I did consider to include C-\ in the options, but \ is hard to type on most keyboards: C and \ are the two most distant keys on the most widespread keyboard layout (QWERTY), on other keyboards \ requires pressing Shift or AltGr, ... A letter would be much better. C-^ is clearly not an option, it is way too hard to type even with the QWERTY layout (C-S-6).