Re: Emacs's set-frame-size can not work well with gnome-shell?

[Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>]

On 21.01.2020 11:29, martin rudalics wrote:
>  > GNUstep what? I'm hesitant to install the dependencies, whatever they 
> are.
> 
> Forget it.  It can be useful for checking dependencies when implementing
> new features.  One cannot do practical work with it IME.  What I meant
> was rather whether anyone see problms like yours on NS-based machines.

Like a Mac? Apparently not. But they do complain about flickering:

https://github.com/sebastiencs/company-box/issues/79#issuecomment-576507598

>  > Still, a good question. I did a Lucid toolkit build and, lo and 
> behold, the bug went away. Also it's blazing fast:
>  >
>  > (benchmark 200 '(resize-test test-frame))
>  > => 0.007s
> 
> So is it usable?  In your other mail you seemed to indicate that it's
> still flickering.

It's usable, yes. Without visibility cycling, there's little flickering, 
and it doesn't happen in the simple scenario we're discussing now.

 > And can you resize child frames by dragging their
 > borders with it?

Yes, that works both with Lucid and Motif. BTW, dragging bottom and 
right borders is fast and smooth, but dragging top-left is very choppy.

> If it _is_ usable, the problem is not with mutter but with GTK (maybe in
> connection with mutter) or our interpretation of GTK.  To make very sure
> you could also try a Motif build (it had very few dependencies when I
> installed it, IIRC).

Apparently so. Again, Motif works about as well as Lucid.

Unfortunately, I'm getting reports that the Lucid build is much slower 
than GTK at least for some others: 
https://github.com/tumashu/company-posframe/issues/2#issuecomment-576582371

> In either case this is the most important finding we had so far.  I
> should have asked you earlier.

I should have tried it myself as well.

>  > That didn't help, however. With either value of frame-resize-pixelwise.
>  >
>  > Did 'make bootstrap', to make doubly sure.
> 
> I have to go through our GTK code once more.  Maybe I find a similar
> discrepancy.  For example, does anything change when you set
> 'x-gtk-use-window-move' to nil?

No change.

>  > It appears that they work okay in other desktop environments, though. 
> It might also turn out to be a GTK problem.
>  >
>  > FTR, my GTK version is 3.24.8.
> 
> Mine is 3.22.11 and I'm always reluctant to upgrade my environment.  For
> every problem upgrading fixes, I usually get three new ones.

If only we didn't have to support newer versions for other users. :-)

> Does your
> GTK still have the
> 
> (emacs:2053): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_distribute_natural_allocation: 
> assertion 'extra_space >= 0' failed
> 
> problem?  I see it here when starting emacs -Q from a terminal and use
> the mouse to shrink the Emacs GUI frame to something less than the tool
> bar width.

Yup. I see it.