From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Mathias Dahl" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Very interesting analysis of "the state of Emacs" Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:12:54 +0200 Message-ID: <7dbe73ed0804300712yea4202fy1b1dfea3c0d64bff@mail.gmail.com> References: <481693C3.70901@emf.net> <4816CDB6.6000006@pajato.com> <4817D79F.8040508@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1209564878 8156 80.91.229.12 (30 Apr 2008 14:14:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:14:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen Eilert" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 30 16:15:14 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JrD5P-0006BC-ET for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:15:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42075 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JrD4d-000831-FT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:14:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JrD3K-0007b2-6h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:12:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JrD3I-0007aT-KS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:12:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43426 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JrD3I-0007aL-AZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:12:56 -0400 Original-Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.176]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JrD3I-0001HN-55 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:12:56 -0400 Original-Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m34so132856wag.10 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:12:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=gTjda3RHcxKYLYsq6rBzbGXhQ3D/IA9iWuqA+GNSmsM=; b=dlmJVW+bcXZ81X1poH3qW8abyx24lIYCXfXSxRvCO5NXFbOvlS8dp9vlgqG4U6EL5i4gSVRCKl4gMn7lAmC3bUc+pHa86mcb7KBrvyK1aRF4wR9llK/yhgcJc3ORPZ5/OF4Hq4zoxJ33DU4cVgmTwjM2gYcqhTxgVi80T0/DdYg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PrACE65NjXYykACU0uTV+/gS8UyvISkVxRmKFJF505GzWqfMK9Wgfj5lE4QBT1pHWzRRii3OwPoKNgFMWm7oPKN2ah19QvIZ/kwUwUZBUozFH6hwvKOdGUCcY4Hi+ZDuqAVOd0/0jhS0z/KWu7Bte8Psqfjgcs5PxKd+wdkInOU= Original-Received: by 10.114.196.13 with SMTP id t13mr716867waf.219.1209564774442; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.114.146.9 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:12:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4817D79F.8040508@gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96224 Archived-At: > Before diving in the merits of whether or not it is possible to add > multi-tasking to Emacs (by that I assume full-blown threads), what are the > problems this is trying to solve? > ... > So I am at a loss why this is so important. Could someone clarify? >From time to time I find myself "stuck" in Dired, doing some operation on many files or on slow network drives. Some things I do: - Browsing the thumbnails of some image directory where no images have thumbnails generated yet. Yes, this might be possible to fix by changing `image-dired' in clever ways. - `dired-do-shell-command'. Most of the time I could have added "&" at the end to make the call asynchronous. - Marking files containing regexp R (the `% g' command). This might be possible to solve by rewriting that command, I don't know. It is quite seldom that I find a need for multi threading (or whatever) when I just execute a one time single command, but I can see that those with a heavy Gnus config might suffer, as people have mentioned.