From: "Mathias Dahl" <mathias.dahl@gmail.com>
To: "paul r" <paul.r.ml@gmail.com>
Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>,
Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Honoring traditional defaults [was: Transient Mark Mode on bydefault]
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:37:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7dbe73ed0803250037q23ab2e2bge989e6abea330911@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e30f0f320803241629k5df2d26awf0cf3b4d9b7d42fe@mail.gmail.com>
> To me, any "oldie" irritated by a change in default settings can go in
> its .emacs and revert to previous behaviour in a matter of seconds.
> I'm again under the impression that this idea provides convenience to
> experienced users that do not really need it. Newbies need default
> settings that encourage them to carry on, this is the real challenge I
> think.
I agree completely with this, and I consider myself quite "young"
(started using Emacs 1997) compared to a lot of the people on this
list. Now that t-m-m is set as default I don't think I will change it
however, I will give it a try, it isn't like it is the end of the
world, I know I can use C-g to deactivate the region, for example.
Give the new users good defaults and let us "oldies" twiddle away. Of
course, there will always be discussions about what is a good default,
and maybe then we get into the problem with some oldies having such
strong opinions about things and think they know what is best for a
beginner. These things are not easy.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-25 7:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-23 23:00 Transient Mark Mode on by default Chong Yidong
2008-03-24 10:15 ` Tassilo Horn
2008-03-24 11:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-03-24 13:06 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-24 13:28 ` Tassilo Horn
2008-03-24 13:57 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-24 15:05 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-24 15:15 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-24 20:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-03-24 20:32 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-24 21:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-03-25 18:31 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-30 19:19 ` M Jared Finder
2008-03-30 19:34 ` Peter Danenberg
2008-03-30 19:42 ` paul r
2008-03-30 19:47 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-30 20:24 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-30 20:29 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-30 20:37 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-31 3:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-31 7:48 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-31 9:42 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-31 9:18 ` Jason Rumney
2008-03-30 21:51 ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-30 22:16 ` M Jared Finder
2008-03-31 7:46 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-31 8:00 ` M Jared Finder
2008-03-31 8:07 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-30 19:45 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-30 20:29 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-30 22:42 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-30 23:11 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-30 23:50 ` William Xu
2008-03-31 3:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-31 3:36 ` William Xu
2008-03-31 16:25 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-31 18:08 ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-01 0:20 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-04-01 0:40 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-01 1:24 ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-01 1:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-01 6:14 ` David Kastrup
2008-04-01 21:34 ` Chong Yidong
2008-04-02 13:53 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-04-02 16:27 ` Chong Yidong
2008-04-02 17:34 ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-02 18:05 ` Drew Adams
2008-04-02 22:07 ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-02 20:27 ` Chong Yidong
2008-04-02 21:29 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-04-06 10:09 ` cua-selection-mode by default (was: Transient Mark Mode on by default) David Kastrup
2008-04-01 21:04 ` Transient Mark Mode on by default Richard Stallman
2008-04-01 21:05 ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-01 21:53 ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-02 7:45 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-24 22:34 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-25 1:45 ` Bastien
2008-03-25 1:41 ` Bastien
2008-03-24 17:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-24 19:54 ` paul r
2008-03-24 20:36 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-24 20:57 ` paul r
2008-03-24 21:04 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-24 21:42 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-24 21:23 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-29 9:18 ` Jari Aalto
2008-03-24 22:28 ` Sascha Wilde
2008-03-24 23:01 ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-24 23:11 ` paul r
2008-03-24 23:34 ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-24 23:44 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-24 23:57 ` paul r
2008-03-25 1:54 ` Bastien
2008-03-25 11:25 ` paul r
2008-03-25 23:49 ` Bastien
2008-03-26 8:49 ` paul r
2008-03-24 22:15 ` Honoring traditional defaults [was: Transient Mark Mode on by default] Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-24 22:47 ` Honoring traditional defaults [was: Transient Mark Mode on bydefault] Drew Adams
2008-03-24 23:29 ` paul r
2008-03-24 23:33 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-25 7:37 ` Mathias Dahl [this message]
2008-03-25 2:06 ` Honoring traditional defaults Bastien
2008-03-25 2:23 ` Bastien
2008-03-25 3:00 ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-25 5:23 ` Honoring traditional defaults [was: Transient Mark Mode on bydefault] Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-25 7:21 ` Honoring traditional defaults [was: Transient Mark Mode onbydefault] Drew Adams
2008-03-25 19:36 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-25 21:38 ` Honoring traditional defaults - how to do it. [was: Transient Mark Mode on bydefault] Alan Mackenzie
2008-03-25 21:42 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-25 22:26 ` Honoring traditional defaults - how to do it. [was: Transient MarkMode " Drew Adams
2008-03-25 23:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-03-26 1:49 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-25 22:28 ` Honoring traditional defaults - how to do it. [was: Transient Mark Mode " paul r
2008-03-25 23:31 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-03-31 16:24 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-31 21:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-02 2:53 ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-02 11:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-03-31 22:06 ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-24 23:22 ` Honoring traditional defaults Sascha Wilde
2008-03-24 23:38 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-25 12:23 ` Sascha Wilde
2008-03-25 5:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-25 0:12 ` Honoring traditional defaults [was: Transient Mark Mode on by default] Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-25 20:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-03-25 21:00 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-26 1:55 ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-26 7:01 ` Transient Mark Mode on by default Drew Adams
2008-03-26 6:54 ` Honoring traditional defaults [was: Transient Mark Mode on by default] Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-29 9:52 ` Jari Aalto
2008-03-24 18:40 ` Transient Mark Mode on by default Sascha Wilde
2008-03-24 19:09 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-24 20:16 ` Sascha Wilde
2008-03-24 20:40 ` paul r
2008-03-24 20:55 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-25 3:21 ` Evans Winner
2008-03-24 20:46 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-24 21:47 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-03-25 0:29 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-25 0:38 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-25 8:16 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-24 22:27 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-25 0:07 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-25 1:50 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25 4:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-25 7:07 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-25 7:23 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-25 13:24 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-25 13:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-25 14:19 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-26 4:47 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-27 2:53 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-27 14:08 ` paul r
2008-03-25 7:14 ` Jan Djärv
2008-03-25 12:37 ` René Kyllingstad
2008-03-24 22:10 ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-24 23:44 ` Jason Rumney
2008-03-25 0:39 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-25 1:17 ` Jason Rumney
2008-03-25 3:07 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-25 7:07 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-25 8:28 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-25 21:01 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-26 0:50 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-25 2:12 ` Bastien
2008-03-25 2:50 ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-29 9:01 ` Jari Aalto
2008-03-31 22:48 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-01 0:14 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-04-01 1:09 ` Mike Mattie
2008-04-01 1:16 ` Mike Mattie
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