From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Mathias Dahl" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 00:17:09 +0200 Message-ID: <7dbe73ed0709181517h25bf7642l4998c69082a1f431@mail.gmail.com> References: <85abrn9ini.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85d4wh3kf9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <851wcw1qht.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87lkb4t3wv.fsf@kfs-lx.testafd.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190153893 24138 80.91.229.12 (18 Sep 2007 22:18:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" To: "Stefan Monnier" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 19 00:18:12 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IXlOT-0001Ai-Pi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 00:18:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IXlOS-0005BZ-3R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:18:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IXlNa-0004tL-Vv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:17:15 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IXlNY-0004sM-7R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:17:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IXlNY-0004sF-3v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:17:12 -0400 Original-Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.177]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IXlNX-000355-R3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:17:12 -0400 Original-Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so12006wah for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:17:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=FR9SgxPNEg1oLvfk8v3qOCI/oBOctYvFLiNAYASOk4Y=; b=CCEF9wRKun8vW1LNZoOzJao8YbFgHrsEe361wWIA2F2QzYbhyJEjgfmBeiz3c7TtVm0/W1j+XP/gDUtfF29nvuqNiuOEh5RsuF5ieclxUHCannI890/vmb0UoC8iWiAUfkRH7bN8sbsIrNighjeK68Mwc7N0mZps9rT/bB58e6Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eCGZL5RErO/qInxuF5wYdHj0CdqsL9ZJ/EwBcnR8yGRxfcEOiGBpZAVLtK1SSTqzhPmhY4Bl3BlncoQZctEy6anbRNg4S8/1tMyoemGfMMnDnkRUBX4n/hc0ipxySsqkfNIjKc81QUoBYor9/Ue9CmuS0pO41OrWVQuEYppfua0= Original-Received: by 10.114.175.16 with SMTP id x16mr615wae.1190153829751; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.114.151.12 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:17:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79240 Archived-At: > I'd be willing to live with a split screen: > - without any option, show the full startup screen, of course: there's no > disagreement on this, AFAIK. > - with a file option (or some other related option such as "-f gnus"), do > show the file, but show also an extra startup screen in > a separate window. Since the normal startup screen takes up too much > space for this use, we'd need a shorter version of the startup screen with > a button that you click to say "show me the full screen". I thought about this as well and I would also accept it. Having the "splash-window" a bit smaller would make it less intrusive but still very visible. I think I would also be OK with the idle-timer + echo area message idea. Personally I now mostly start emacs with -Q those times when I want to make a super quick edit and don't have an instance already running (starting up with my .emacs takes quite a long time).