From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Mathias Dahl" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Edit images Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:34:54 +0100 Message-ID: <7dbe73ed0703031434k460a125focc3d74838e028810@mail.gmail.com> References: <45E9B463.2030909@gmail.com> <854pp2z032.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <7dbe73ed0703031014t37679848lb402146c7b0bcaee@mail.gmail.com> <85vehixif9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1172961317 2214 80.91.229.12 (3 Mar 2007 22:35:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 22:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , Emacs Devel To: "David Kastrup" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 03 23:35:11 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HNcoo-0004Vr-Hb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 23:35:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNcoo-0005wq-3R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:35:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HNcoc-0005wl-Ao for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:34:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HNcoa-0005wX-E2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:34:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNcoa-0005wU-8m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:34:56 -0500 Original-Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.191]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HNcoZ-0002qH-LX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:34:56 -0500 Original-Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so1660881nfc for ; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:34:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DwXi08NxVsBss/loRTbWa9B7AobkVXQ1DIkKn+0kSh4DaO58HFuJAv0/twrPSfIIOf38usaYaMxU739nzS7nqYLyRwb7BG6SIjuMyUaaH+vbbW1KO5zktyHwjSfcg13AvZHynOB1UFZePZh/+MT0wsH4UpOlgj3pdebTw2MFAWc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=H6a0135Gn3Rj3+1PryeSVKiR9i/k6XewSC6pbTEDDEvPC+bSDaQv2wn20rwgFercGtkDMe+6ASuNjcI42qPUACT94Puc/8/P/g2nvBJKXHEmcTrgUwJb49AJn9t2IbR1d1SDKbCnu94BZDfMV4N9p9iFm7efW4WupEkU1Ebmuho= Original-Received: by 10.78.39.16 with SMTP id m16mr441759hum.1172961294827; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:34:54 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.78.12.17 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:34:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <85vehixif9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:67274 Archived-At: > Starting the editor from the image buffer would be quite inconvenient > since then I would get an inconsistency between displayed buffer and > file on disk, requiring me to fiddle with revert-buffer and similar > stuff. True, you would get inconsistency. But if that is a real problem or not depends on if you care about seeing the result in Emacs afterwards or not. You might have used Emacs just to find that particular image that you wanted to edit. I know I do that kind adhoc work a lot. > It would be also quite unusual if I called an image _editor_ that I > would require to display the image _afterwards_ again with Emacs. > Most image editors should be better at displaying an image than Emacs. Sorry, but I don't follow what this has to do with what Lennart wanted; a quick-access command to fire up his image editor of choice. Can it be quicker and more painless than asking Emacs to do it when that image is on his screen? > Postponing that until after the image edit is just asking for trouble. Seems we have very different views about what "trouble" is... :) I have no problem seeing the usefulness of the feature Lennart asks for, but if it is a crucial feature or not, I cannot say. I guess it depends on the user. However, a user that knows about keyboard macros could quickly cook together such a command without knowing anything about emacs lisp. Actually, keyboard macros is one of the coolest things about Emacs, that you can create new "commands" just like that. I think that was the feature that got me sold back in those days. All other text editors that I had tried had some kinds of limitation when doing macro recording, for example dialog boxes often break the macro recording and you could not use a cut'n'pasted piece of text in the search dialog or whatever. Ah, those were the days... :)