From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Carbon emacs - frame too big for minibuffer can't resize window Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 01:17:04 +0100 Message-ID: <7c770251bad40240264f612b07b782e7@Web.DE> References: <87is4dd3z1.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org> <87d5uld0v0.fsf-monnier+inbox@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1109550771 25693 80.91.229.2 (28 Feb 2005 00:32:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 28 01:32:51 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D5Yq5-0003sO-RV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 01:32:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D5Z8L-0000xz-KM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:51:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D5Z7V-0000cA-OP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:50:45 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D5Z7Q-0000Zj-K4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:50:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D5Z7Q-0000W2-DA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:50:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [217.72.192.224] (helo=smtp06.web.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1D5Yaw-0004tH-Rx for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:17:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.184.147.174] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.103 #192) id 1D5Yau-0004WU-00; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 01:17:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87d5uld0v0.fsf-monnier+inbox@gnu.org> Original-To: Stefan Monnier X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:24413 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:24413 Am 28.02.2005 um 00:46 schrieb Stefan Monnier: > The Carbon Emacs code is in development, so you should try and help > fix the > bugs (and other misfeatures, mis-leading behaviors, ...), rather than > try > and work around them. To fix the bugs, you should bring them to them > attention of developers. That's good news! I thought all Carbon development was 'migrated' to amateurs (those who do love), particularly in Japan, which produce a Carbon Emacs from CVS that Apple is advertising actively, and that this code won't migrate into the official code base. Carbon Emacs really needs a lot of development, particularly with fonts and fontsets. Latin and Unicode encodings are badly supported, only Mac-Roman and iso-2022-7bit (maybe 8bit too) work well -- at least with the fontsets I created from system fonts that are Unicode encoded. The HELLO file looks much to empty! But I have to admit that this fontsets things still have a lot of secrets for me ... -- Greetings Pete The box said "Use Windows 95 or better," so I got a Macintosh