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Sat, 07 Mar 2020 16:49:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <838skcbopm.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:177037 Archived-At: On 07.03.2020 9:37, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Something like: >> >> A project is set of files. Which we usually define through a list of >> directories where the files reside, and a list of ignore rules that >> exclude some files within said directories from being considered a part >> of the project. > > This is too abstract: it doesn't tell the reader how to "create a > project". Without knowing that, all the rest of the information about > the commands is mostly useless, because the commands cannot be used in > practice. We don't provide a command to create a project, and we probably won't in the future either. I disagree about useless, since most users deal with existing projects 99% of the time. But I can see how a manual would seem incomplete without such information. It doesn't have to be contained in the definition of "what is a project", however. > We are talking about the Emacs User manual. The project API is > extensible on the Lisp programmer level, not on the user level. So > the user-level information should describe what is available to users; > too much abstractions is inappropriate. Still, I'd prefer if it did that without conflating the terms. >>> I see nothing wrong with having this in the VC chapter for now; we can >>> always move it out later, when there are other back-ends. The >>> placement of sections in chapters of the manual is neither sacred nor >>> final. >> >> As long as it doesn't say that a project is a VC repository. > > But with the VC back-end, it really is, isn't it? The relation is reverse (all repositories are projects, but not all projects are repositories), but yes. > Then why not say > that the type of project supported by Emacs OOTB is a VCS repository? Sure, we can say that. Maybe also add an adjective like "main" (the main type of project ...), since EDE is also a part of Emacs.