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From: Deniz Dogan <deniz.a.m.dogan@gmail.com>
To: "Per Starbäck" <per@starback.se>
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: C-j considered harmful (not really)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:53:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7b501d5c0911221253h30a354fqd3d53080a5a903c2@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <912155b0911221236t7cebbb35n4bc10805bb685c1e@mail.gmail.com>

2009/11/22 Per Starbäck <per@starback.se>:
> 2009/11/17 Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>:
>>>> That key should be used in I-search with the same meaning as C-j has
>>>> now, and should
>>>> be possible to use instead of C-q C-j to enter a newline in minibuffer
>>>> input. Maybe
>>>> <C-return> could be used for this?
>
>> In IM clients, S-RET inserts newline, and RET accepts input.
>
> Evidently <S-return> is used to insert newlines in lots of programs.
> I've just searched
> for "shift-return" and "shift-enter" on the web and seen many examples.
>
> After reconsidering this I then suggest just that <S-return> should be
> usable as an alternative to C-j.
>
> * nice for those who are used to that from other programs
> * easier to remember for most new users
> * I realize now I would like it personally as well. I used the
> linefeed key a lot back when I used a vt100,
> but nowadays I have keyboards without a linefeed key, like most of
> them are. I could use C-j but I find
> myself typing RET TAB far more often. I think it would be easier to
> learn to linefeed-deprived fingers to
> sneak in a shift with the RET.
> * Since <S-return> isn't always available it should probably not be
> used for some new command anyway,
> so this is as good a use of it as there is.
>

I still think we should have an alternative to C-j which works in -nw
as well, which is not the case with S-RET.

-- 
Deniz Dogan




  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-22 20:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-16 22:37 C-j considered harmful (not really) Per Starbäck
2009-11-16 22:51 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-11-17 10:09   ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-17 23:17     ` Xavier Maillard
2009-11-18  9:54       ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-22 20:36     ` Per Starbäck
2009-11-22 20:53       ` Deniz Dogan [this message]
2009-11-23  2:57       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23  9:54         ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-23 11:11           ` Per Starbäck
2009-11-23 15:05             ` Drew Adams
2009-11-23 15:05           ` Drew Adams
2009-11-23 16:09             ` Per Starbäck
2009-11-24 17:12             ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-24 17:51               ` Drew Adams

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