From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Deniz Dogan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: ERC: Scroll to bottom by default Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:51:36 +0200 Message-ID: <7b501d5c0907310751y2d9626bcj75c75f328b3f95c2@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249052108 831 80.91.229.12 (31 Jul 2009 14:55:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:55:08 +0000 (UTC) To: Emacs-Devel devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 31 16:55:01 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MWtVZ-0000Oh-8t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:54:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57463 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MWtVX-0001Y1-9R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:54:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MWtSQ-0000Ak-Lk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:51:42 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MWtSL-00007Y-Vg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:51:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33867 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MWtSL-00007S-T3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:51:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com ([209.85.219.211]:40162) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MWtSL-00009u-8p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:51:37 -0400 Original-Received: by ewy7 with SMTP id 7so1424576ewy.42 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:51:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RWFOJq0SjeSvnUisVNqZZos9znErH/RmwMKJQMP/w64=; b=gglS070vpIkFuXmtjNYGZdaqiTBUnaRU1ezlUSUnmT5Z/LJpEV65aCZECJQeLOJ7MR 5VD4Tm+DROLQWvYtE7GuX+v8h3dlCUEZJ75JlHayN+BbiA+sguzeT9yYtK95eyuUNXsS FnD+IwN7b9GpCZDjDfbImx7HtEuxMVGDuJ1Iw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=EI4XOjJglWQcRC+ipltMQKuHNXQ1iOx159xSJ7Z9WxfvWkvx/h8RwpY0BMzPxGOHXE Ef9id+5jYTuzT6/2U9RoN9/eo5frPNUFDC7Hl2hFxYDDCOeqkn34zd6LpIKwzOvkmNX9 Ns1sxSBTCadhuWMnD5B3ZArWJtdn9+d4kmHTA= Original-Received: by 10.210.131.6 with SMTP id e6mr1033680ebd.29.1249051896356; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:51:36 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:113453 Archived-At: This has always bugged me and I keep forgetting how to set it, since there are two variables that need to be changed. By default, ERC buffers "scroll" just like other Emacs buffers, i.e. when point reaches below the currently visible portion of the buffer (e.g. when a new message arrives in an ERC buffer), it scrolls half a buffer length. Given the nature of IRC and IM protocols in general, I think most people would want to enable scrolltobottom by default and set erc-input-line-position to -1, to make it act like pretty much every other IRC client out there. What do people think about this proposal? -- Deniz Dogan