From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17779: 24.4.50; (elisp) `Using Interactive' Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 19:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7b436413-02f5-4516-87b4-04e2aba06124@default> References: <79a25ee9-e53e-494f-b7e3-ebd2e2eebafa@default> <87o9159k6k.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="252466"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 17779@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 05 04:08:08 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1huSPw-0013ZV-Bo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Mon, 5 Aug 2019 02:05:30 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2u5232td7t-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 05 Aug 2019 02:05:29 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0020.oracle.com (abhmp0020.oracle.com [141.146.116.26]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id x7525TUF025502; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 02:05:29 GMT In-Reply-To: <87o9159k6k.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4873.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9339 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=816 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1908050019 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9339 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=866 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1908050019 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:164606 Archived-At: I don't even think it should say: "Usually this form will call various functions to read input from the user, most often through the minibuffer (*note Minibuffers::) or directly from the keyboard (*note Reading Input::)." It can say that the form can read input etc. - that's fine. But I don't see the point of saying "usually". The point is that IF some argument needs to be obtained by getting user input then it that CAN be done by the form, e.g. reading from the minibuffer etc. But that's a nit. ("Often" is better than "usually", if you really want to stress that this is done often.) > Yes, I think you're right -- the text starting with "Providing point or > the mark" until the end of the example seems like very confusing text > to > include in an introduction to `interactive'. The failure modes (if you > can call it that) are hyper-specific to a very obscure case, and (as > Drew says) what the user should do here depends on what the user wants. >=20 > So I think that bit should just be removed from the manual. >=20 > Any objections? No objection from me, at least. Thanks for working on this.