- = Carsten

On Feb 10, 2008, at 9:00 AM, cezar wrote:

Personally I do like:

- this way of indenting a = long line
that extends to more than one line

So an idea = that comes to mind is, how about disabling indentation for
lists and = have a special way of editing a list item like so:

- have your = list content here up to a point where you press <C-M-TAB>
= and that indents your next line (or pointer)

So pressing = just TAB in a list content won't have any effect.

Hope that = helps.

Regards,
Cezar

Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> = writes:

Hi = Everyone,

I am personally = not fond of separators, and we must be sure = what
their purpose is. = As a means of terminating a list for = export
and folding, you can = use empty lines when setting the variable
`org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists' discovered by = Will.
Or any text that is no = linger indented behind the bullet marker.

But if I = understand correctly, this is really about indentation = and
about M-q paragraph = wrapping.

I have thought = about how to make aragraph wrapping to respect = the
indentation of a line = after a plain list item and failed. I = cannot
figure it = out.

For paragraph = wrapping we would really need a separator, and then = we
would need to add this = separator to the regular expressions in
`paragraph-start' and `paragraph-separate', obscure pieces = of the
Emacs formatting which = do not work really consistent between = different
commands = fill-paragraph and fill-region). EIther that, or I am = not
really able to comprehend = how this works.

About = indentation, there are other possible conventions one could = use.
Right now, TAB will = indent a line under a plain list item to = beyond
the item bullet. = Independent of the current indentation. So it = will
indent lines with low = indentation, and outdent lines with too = large
indentations.

One could have = different conventions. For example, we could do = this:
In the line after a = plain list item:
- when the = indentation is 0 or when the line is empty, make TAB = indent
to under the = line before, as if you intended to continue the = item.
- when the line is not = empty and already indented, keep that
indentation.

I am not sure = if that would be seen as more consistent and stable, = up
for = discussion.

- = Carsten

On Feb 10, = 2008, at 6:05 AM, Eddward DeVilla wrote:

On Feb 9, 2008 10:47 PM, William Henney <whenney@gmail.com> = wrote:
On Feb 9, 2008 9:55 PM, Eddward = DeVilla <eddward@gmail.com>= wrote:
In any case, I'm just trying to = come up with something that = does
the
<= blockquote type=3D"cite">
job but is not an eye sore in = the org buffer. I'm looking = for

something that visually looks = like a natural footer or terminator = in

plain text. (And a footer = ought to be able to be preceeded by = a

header.) I know the = significance of the '/' in xml, but = visually,

it

doesn't look right to my eyes. = Aside from the meaning in = xml

code, = it

does say end-of-list to me. = If anything, it seems to connect = the

preceeding and proceeding text, = like this/that. The dashes draw = a

dividing = line.

How = about "-." ?

Better. Still kind of = cryptic, but more subtle. Actually, = since

that's all that's on the line, it really doesn't matter = what it is.

Font lock can hide it or gray it = out. It could look like a blank = line

without the = ambiguity.

Edd

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