From: Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>
To: cezar <cezar@mixandgo.ro>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Re: list indentation
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:58:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7EA1326E-F192-42CD-B800-5952669B9B37@science.uva.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zlu99r61.fsf@mixandgo.ro>
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Are you talking about something like longlines.el? I am not sure
if you understand what you mean.
- Carsten
On Feb 10, 2008, at 9:00 AM, cezar wrote:
>
> Personally I do like:
>
> - this way of indenting a long line
> that extends to more than one line
>
> So an idea that comes to mind is, how about disabling indentation for
> lists and have a special way of editing a list item like so:
>
> - have your list content here up to a point where you press <C-M-TAB>
> and that indents your next line (or pointer)
>
> So pressing just TAB in a list content won't have any effect.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Regards,
> Cezar
>
> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I am personally not fond of separators, and we must be sure what
>> their purpose is. As a means of terminating a list for export
>> and folding, you can use empty lines when setting the variable
>> `org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists' discovered by Will.
>> Or any text that is no linger indented behind the bullet marker.
>>
>> But if I understand correctly, this is really about indentation and
>> about M-q paragraph wrapping.
>>
>> I have thought about how to make aragraph wrapping to respect the
>> indentation of a line after a plain list item and failed. I cannot
>> figure it out.
>>
>> For paragraph wrapping we would really need a separator, and then we
>> would need to add this separator to the regular expressions in
>> `paragraph-start' and `paragraph-separate', obscure pieces of the
>> Emacs formatting which do not work really consistent between
>> different
>> commands fill-paragraph and fill-region). EIther that, or I am not
>> really able to comprehend how this works.
>>
>> About indentation, there are other possible conventions one could
>> use.
>> Right now, TAB will indent a line under a plain list item to beyond
>> the item bullet. Independent of the current indentation. So it will
>> indent lines with low indentation, and outdent lines with too large
>> indentations.
>>
>> One could have different conventions. For example, we could do this:
>> In the line after a plain list item:
>> - when the indentation is 0 or when the line is empty, make TAB
>> indent
>> to under the line before, as if you intended to continue the item.
>> - when the line is not empty and already indented, keep that
>> indentation.
>>
>> I am not sure if that would be seen as more consistent and stable, up
>> for discussion.
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2008, at 6:05 AM, Eddward DeVilla wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 9, 2008 10:47 PM, William Henney <whenney@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Feb 9, 2008 9:55 PM, Eddward DeVilla <eddward@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> In any case, I'm just trying to come up with something that does
>>>>> the
>>>>> job but is not an eye sore in the org buffer. I'm looking for
>>>>> something that visually looks like a natural footer or
>>>>> terminator in
>>>>> plain text. (And a footer ought to be able to be preceeded by a
>>>>> header.) I know the significance of the '/' in xml, but visually,
>>>>> it
>>>>> doesn't look right to my eyes. Aside from the meaning in xml
>>>>> code, it
>>>>> does say end-of-list to me. If anything, it seems to connect the
>>>>> preceeding and proceeding text, like this/that. The dashes draw a
>>>>> dividing line.
>>>>
>>>> How about "-." ?
>>>
>>> Better. Still kind of cryptic, but more subtle. Actually, since
>>> that's all that's on the line, it really doesn't matter what it is.
>>> Font lock can hide it or gray it out. It could look like a blank
>>> line
>>> without the ambiguity.
>>>
>>> Edd
>>>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-10 10:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-07 18:58 list indentation cezar
2008-02-07 23:31 ` Hugo Schmitt
2008-02-08 9:24 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-02-09 0:29 ` cezar
2008-02-09 7:17 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-02-09 7:26 ` cezar
2008-02-09 17:02 ` Eddward DeVilla
2008-02-09 21:45 ` William Henney
2008-02-09 22:17 ` cezar
2008-02-09 22:50 ` William Henney
2008-02-09 23:26 ` Eddward DeVilla
2008-02-10 1:09 ` William Henney
2008-02-10 3:55 ` Eddward DeVilla
2008-02-10 4:47 ` William Henney
2008-02-10 5:05 ` Eddward DeVilla
2008-02-10 7:29 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-02-10 8:00 ` cezar
2008-02-10 10:58 ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2008-02-10 19:26 ` cezar
2008-02-09 23:41 ` cezar
2008-02-10 1:28 ` William Henney
2008-02-10 1:33 ` Cezar Halmagean
2008-02-10 1:35 ` William Henney
2008-02-10 20:42 ` Bastien Guerry
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