From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9712: 24.0.50; doc about byte-compiling `defcustom' Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:51:00 -0700 Message-ID: <7D2DB4482840400D81CC74F60D0091DC@us.oracle.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318308715 2065 80.91.229.12 (11 Oct 2011 04:51:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 04:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9712@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 11 06:51:51 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RDUJj-0008QT-Nk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 06:51:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57775 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDUJj-0006bx-BF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:51:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42613) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDUJh-0006br-9r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:51:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDUJg-00046k-DS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:51:49 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42767) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDUJg-00046g-Ag for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:51:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RDUJu-0001ra-Gi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:52:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 04:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9712 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9712-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9712.13183086957130 (code B ref 9712); Tue, 11 Oct 2011 04:52:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9712) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Oct 2011 04:51:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RDUJS-0001qw-IF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:51:35 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RDUJQ-0001qh-6Q for 9712@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:51:32 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p9B4p9ne015166 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 11 Oct 2011 04:51:11 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9B4p9ov004614 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Oct 2011 04:51:09 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt119.oracle.com (abhmt119.oracle.com [141.146.116.71]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p9B4p3IS026669; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 23:51:03 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.50.234) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:51:03 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcyHu/NzbqB2H97tTm+GdMR/1HsdugAFBKEA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4E93CB3F.0113:SCFMA922111,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:52:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:52501 Archived-At: > The bug is not in the doc but in the behavior. That was my feeling, as well. But I did not expect agreement, based on the commented code. The bug has been there for multiple major Emacs releases now - a decade or so, and appears to have been introduced intentionally. If there is no plan to fix it soon, perhaps the info that is in the comments should at least be conveyed to users. Alternatively, the code could be uncommented and byte-compiling be let free to do what is advertised that it does. The downside would be showing users the constant values in Customize, but that seems like less of a disfunction than what we have now. As it stands now, the behavior is stable (many years), but it is not what is intended and it does not correspond to the behavior implied by the doc.