From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: delete-selection-mode Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:52:55 -0700 Message-ID: <7CC1DE9AB1DE4C06AD900FB3188AB257@us.oracle.com> References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com><201003130001.o2D01FFQ003489@godzilla.ics.uci.edu><87vdd1yqe4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87eijjzrkd.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org><20100317143519.GB4381@muc.de> <361BF0A38D1B4C54942BEE7AF07981E6@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269025342 17978 80.91.229.12 (19 Mar 2010 19:02:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, acm@muc.de To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 19 20:02:15 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NshSY-0002SQ-Su for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:02:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38903 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NshSY-0000o6-Dp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:02:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NshLQ-0003Ma-55 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:54:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56399 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NshLO-0003Ld-Tg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:54:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NshLN-0006oW-TI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:54:50 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet12.oracle.com ([141.146.126.234]:55558) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NshLL-0006o4-Li; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:54:47 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by acsinet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o2JIsh5a017964 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:54:45 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o2JEnktI024032; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:54:41 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt019.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 96090761269024776; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:52:56 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.5.179.75) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:52:56 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcrHfL3w4u4A+/1zQdmaGfiS/Mt/OwAD1blw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090202.4BA3C872.0169:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122303 Archived-At: > If people are unfamiliar with `delete-selection-mode' and > do not want to make it the default behavior, fine. But > please do not mess with the behavior of > `delete-selection-mode'. It does not need to be "fixed". > > If some users like `delete-selection-mode' as it stands, there is no > reason to change it. > > This discussion was started as a response to requests from beginners. > Enabling `delete-selection-mode' by default was proposed as a way to > satisfy them. But if we change the default, we don't have to use > `delete-selection-mode'. We could use something different for this > purpose if it is more suitabe. Thank you. Let's finish with the original proposal, at least, to get that out of the way one way or the other. Depending on that decision, we can always consider other changes. Given d-s-mode _as it is_, do people think it should be enabled by default? That's the question. If the consensus is strong enough that in its current form it should not become the default, fine. But let's at least give Juri's proposal a clear judgment.