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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Juri Linkov'" <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: 'David De La Harpe Golden' <david@harpegolden.net>,
	'Chong Yidong' <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
	'Lennart Borgman' <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Dan Nicolaescu' <dann@ics.uci.edu>,
	'Stefan Monnier' <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	'Miles Bader' <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Darkening font-lock colors
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:46:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7AB0F870FA734F08AE36412D50A65E4B@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ab2glbi8.fsf@mail.jurta.org>

> > Just publish the old colors and the corresponding new
> > ones. If you do that, it really doesn't matter much what 
> > colors you use.
> >
> > It is important to list changes in any default 
> > values/behavior at each release, stating clearly what
> > the old was and the new is in each case. That is normal
> > behavior.
> 
> What is shorter to put in NEWS: complete definitions of old
> and new faces (ca 50 lines) or simply a text like "you can
> switch back to `color-theme-emacs-23.1"?

1. Did you miss this point:

>> A user might well like the new colors in general but prefer 
>> one of the old colors. But what was it? This is not about
>> choosing between two themes (neither of which might be appropriate).

When you change themes, you get the whole package, lock, stock, and barrel.
Knowing what a given face was that you liked lets you restore just that face.

2. The criterion should be helping users the most, not minimizing the number of
bytes in NEWS. And even if it takes an extra 1000 bytes, no big deal.

3. Listing changed default settings is normal behavior for any released
software. It is the least we owe to users.





  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-03 23:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-30 21:12 Darkening font-lock colors Chong Yidong
2009-07-30 21:39 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-07-30 21:51   ` Drew Adams
2009-07-30 22:00     ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-30 21:57   ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-30 22:21     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-07-30 23:40       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-07-31  0:18         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-31  0:55           ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-31  3:01             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-31 15:39               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-02 20:22               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-02 22:36                 ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-02 22:40                   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-03  0:16                   ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-03  1:09                     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10  0:14                       ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-10  2:37                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-10  3:28                           ` Miles Bader
2009-08-10 23:56                             ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-03  2:14                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-08-03  2:28                       ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-03  4:34                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-08-03  5:13                         ` Miles Bader
2009-08-03  5:22                           ` Drew Adams
2009-08-03  9:54                             ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-03 11:58                               ` Daniel Clemente
2009-08-03 13:49                               ` Drew Adams
2009-08-03 23:32                                 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-03 23:46                                   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2009-08-03 13:59                               ` joakim
2009-08-03 20:42                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-08-08 20:56                                 ` Color themes (was: Darkening font-lock colors) Juri Linkov
2009-08-08 21:16                                   ` Color themes joakim
2009-08-09  3:04                                   ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-09  4:28                                     ` Leo
2009-08-09 16:18                                       ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-09 17:28                                         ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-09 18:05                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:51                                         ` joakim
2009-08-10  9:12                                         ` Leo
2009-08-10 23:48                                           ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-11  1:32                                             ` Leo
2009-08-11  3:58                                           ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-11  4:26                                             ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-11  5:52                                               ` Drew Adams
2009-08-11  5:52                                             ` Drew Adams
2009-08-11  8:59                                             ` Leo
2009-08-11 18:21                                               ` ferkiwi
2009-08-03 20:01                           ` Darkening font-lock colors Lennart Borgman
2009-08-03 22:40                             ` Drew Adams
2009-08-03 22:57                               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-03 23:54                                 ` Drew Adams
2009-08-04  0:10                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-04  0:16                                     ` Drew Adams
2009-08-04 21:27                                     ` Johan Bockgård
2009-08-04 23:16                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-03 23:27                         ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-03 23:42                           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-31  0:55       ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-31  2:39         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-03  0:17           ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-03  3:44             ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-03  9:59               ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-03 12:34                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-03 14:21                   ` Stephen Eilert
2009-08-03 21:11                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-03 23:02                     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-04  8:27                       ` Romain Francoise
2009-08-04  8:29                         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-04 22:44                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-03 23:32                   ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-31  0:46   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-30 21:41 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-30 22:22 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-07-31  1:50   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-31  3:54 ` tomas
2009-08-04 22:14 ` Juri Linkov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-08-03  9:35 Angelo Graziosi
2009-08-03 20:42 Francesc Rocher
2009-08-04  0:16 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-04  0:21 ` Drew Adams
2009-08-10 14:15 grischka
2009-08-10 23:57 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-11 16:07   ` grischka

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