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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282240 Archived-At: On 12/17/2021 3:53 PM, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 17.12.2021 23:38, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>    . if this annoys you so much, then why not change the value in your >>      own configuration? why do you insist to change the default? > > FWIW, I've tried native-comp myself once, saw the myriad of warnings and > returned to a non-native-compiled build in part because of that. > > Just one voice, but there must be others who did that too. One more voice: I'm in favor of the current default for native-comp-async-report-warnings-errors. Native compilation is disabled by default. People who build emacs for their own use and choose to try native compilation can see the consequences and make their own decision on how to deal with them. Users who don't like the warnings can turn them off. Users who would rather help fix the problems turned up the warnings can leave them on. Users who just find the whole issue annoying can stop building with native compilation. But if we turned off the warnings by default, many users wouldn't even know the options. Similar remarks apply to people who build emacs as maintainers for a distro. If they choose to build with native compilation and impose that decision on their users, they can also choose for their users the default value of native-comp-async-report-warnings-errors. If native compilation were enabled by default, it would be a different story. Ken