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Tue, 25 Feb 2020 16:35:02 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2ybdux4c6a-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 25 Feb 2020 16:35:01 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0003.oracle.com (abhmp0003.oracle.com [141.146.116.9]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 01PGZ18N012995; Tue, 25 Feb 2020 16:35:01 GMT In-Reply-To: <8736ayac57.fsf@gmail.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4966.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9542 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 adultscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxlogscore=726 malwarescore=0 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2001150001 definitions=main-2002250124 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9542 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 impostorscore=0 spamscore=0 phishscore=0 clxscore=1015 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=786 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2001150001 definitions=main-2002250124 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:176470 Archived-At: > > Yes. > > > > But even better is to remove uses of "Cf." (which > > is not so common nowadays, and is understood by > > fewer and fewer readers). It can typically be > > replaced by something as simple as "Compare" or > > sometimes even just "See also". >=20 > Do you have any hard data for your claims? No, and I won't bother looking for it (which doesn't mean that such data doesn't exist). > Couldn't the same be argued about "e.g." vs "for > example" or "i.e." vs "that is"? Anyone could argue that if they wanted to, of course. I wouldn't argue it. In my experience, those two, and "etc.", are pretty commonly recognized and understood ("i.e." probably less so than the others, sometimes being misunderstood as the same as "e.g."). > Is "cf." really so much less common? I think it is, but I won't try to support that as a fact. > Anyway, it is probably largely subjective, but unless you can bring up > many examples of potential further requests (I can't think of anything > else myself), just adding "cf." shouldn't hurt, should it? I never said that removing the bug of 2-spaces after "cf." would hurt or is a bad idea. In fact, I said, "Yes." It's a good idea. Even better is to remove occurrences of "cf.", but yes, that fix should be done anyway, in case someone does use "cf."