From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Milliken Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs 23.1.1 Windoze doesn't locate/run site-lisp.el/default.el anymore (bug??) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:14:50 +1000 Message-ID: <791153ba0908032114n291e0627o130019a2d9775e60@mail.gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd3723eb2d37704704920ec X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249359331 2287 80.91.229.12 (4 Aug 2009 04:15:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Jason Rumney Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 04 06:15:24 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MYBQn-0001t8-CM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 06:15:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56796 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MYBQm-0003Hn-AH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:15:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MYBQQ-0003Hh-6k for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:14:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MYBQK-0003HV-Ov for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:14:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42894 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MYBQK-0003HS-HX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:14:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.248]:36195) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MYBQK-00024S-57 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:14:52 -0400 Original-Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so1714773rvb.6 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:14:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5jm9S3FuuN3UsVW61V4VL7M3G0lWMFFMHVN7TwzN+eI=; b=eem4AnvwXB1/er7whKBZAN88cRMfkHBmJj9YiGUN9QqQM/amFlr/L3OV2z531EUxYR GYbNtTyj1VMhHWQZ8q0FELgBfDR5FjuKdKKTRGUtsgEY3/TiqX5vKRzs9hD5FRoNqULm tBPBq3nRnIMgiB48F7JWod338tzf9juIU3XGQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=C/92RAdGkYpyFFLiun5mlfNbyMbvyw7wduoBkP3BMRdF4uoq+/lKw/3fOkJPDYgnWO bZjC7i3MOZPqUdcwmFrh7gTKSFjC/+r1CBXtl4DAx26C+rBhceiHVLNbvl4XucH2dLcw ioKlGmWUdI9ezWvtSOVWy5zLp+/1UzCizvvnI= Original-Received: by 10.141.29.21 with SMTP id g21mr4529939rvj.113.1249359290356; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:14:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:66724 Archived-At: --000e0cd3723eb2d37704704920ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It was the pretest emacs (the very last one before the official release I believe) - which is when I was first faced with the tool-bar sticking me in the face. So I read up on how to get rid of it and was forced to put the code in site-start.el - which I naturally put in the same directory as my .emacs - not reading the manual carefully enough to realise it should not find it there - but it did. So I guess something changed since the last pretest and the official release - because it was certainly working from ~! :-) I may abandon using the Windows release of Emacs though as the road seems to be for more and more Windows/mouse interaction being built in as "default". It is annoying having to research how to turn the stuff off. I think I'll have a closer look at the cygwin Emacs distrib. Thanks anyway Peter On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Jason Rumney wrote: > On Aug 3, 6:50 am, Peter Milliken wrote: > > Just loaded Emacs 23.1.1 for Windoze and now my site-lisp.el file > nolonger > > seems to run. > > > Just for the hell of it, I copied the default.el into c:/emacs/site-lisp > - > > and Emacs appears to run it from that location - which is NOT where I > want > > my personal customisations to reside! > > > > Nothing else has changed i.e. my HOME directory prior to starting Emacs > is > > still pointing to where the site-start.el/default.el files are located. > > Emacs has never automatically run site-lisp.el and default.el files > from the HOME directory, unless your HOME directory happens to be > called site-lisp and is in the parent directory of your previous Emacs > installation, I don't see how this could have worked without > customizations in .emacs > --000e0cd3723eb2d37704704920ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It was the pretest emacs (the very last one before the official release I b= elieve) - which is when I was first faced with the tool-bar sticking me in = the face. So I read up on how to get rid of it and was forced to put the co= de in site-start.el - which I naturally put in the same directory as my .em= acs - not reading the manual carefully enough to realise it should not find= it there - but it did.

So I guess something changed since the last pretest and the = official release - because it was certainly working from ~! :-)
<= br>
I may abandon using the Windows release of Emacs though as th= e road seems to be for more and more Windows/mouse interaction being built = in as "default". It is annoying having to research how to turn th= e stuff off. I think I'll have a closer look at the cygwin Emacs distri= b.

Thanks anyway
Peter

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Jason Rumney <jasonrumney@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 3, 6:50=A0am, Pete= r Milliken <peter.milli...@g= mail.com> wrote:
> Just loaded Emacs 23.1.1 for Windoze and now my site-lisp.el file nolo= nger
> seems to run.

> Just for the hell of it, I copied the default.= el into c:/emacs/site-lisp -
> and Emacs appears to run it from that location - which is NOT where I = want
> my personal customisations to reside!
>
> Nothing else has changed i.e. my HOME directory prior to starting Emac= s is
> still pointing to where the site-start.el/default.el files are located= .

Emacs has never automatically run site-lisp.el and default.el files from the HOME directory, =A0unless your HOME directory happens to be
called site-lisp and is in the parent directory of your previous Emacs
installation, I don't see how this could have worked without
customizations in .emacs

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