It was the pretest emacs (the very last one before the official release I believe) - which is when I was first faced with the tool-bar sticking me in the face. So I read up on how to get rid of it and was forced to put the code in site-start.el - which I naturally put in the same directory as my .emacs - not reading the manual carefully enough to realise it should not find it there - but it did. So I guess something changed since the last pretest and the official release - because it was certainly working from ~! :-) I may abandon using the Windows release of Emacs though as the road seems to be for more and more Windows/mouse interaction being built in as "default". It is annoying having to research how to turn the stuff off. I think I'll have a closer look at the cygwin Emacs distrib. Thanks anyway Peter On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Jason Rumney wrote: > On Aug 3, 6:50 am, Peter Milliken wrote: > > Just loaded Emacs 23.1.1 for Windoze and now my site-lisp.el file > nolonger > > seems to run. > > > Just for the hell of it, I copied the default.el into c:/emacs/site-lisp > - > > and Emacs appears to run it from that location - which is NOT where I > want > > my personal customisations to reside! > > > > Nothing else has changed i.e. my HOME directory prior to starting Emacs > is > > still pointing to where the site-start.el/default.el files are located. > > Emacs has never automatically run site-lisp.el and default.el files > from the HOME directory, unless your HOME directory happens to be > called site-lisp and is in the parent directory of your previous Emacs > installation, I don't see how this could have worked without > customizations in .emacs >