From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: rusi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:06:40 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <78ede057-895d-443c-8327-30d63b60960b@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com> References: <1578157c-17a0-41ea-9420-9330f68b10fe@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com> <87ei6zpbor.fsf@rapttech.com.au> <2p8vx4550z.fsf@shell.xmission.com> <2pwrkkbd82.fsf@shell.xmission.com> <2pk4gjbgv7.fsf@shell.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1298994484 16542 80.91.229.12 (1 Mar 2011 15:48:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 15:48:04 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 01 16:48:00 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PuRnr-0000zT-9D for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:47:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34335 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PuRmD-000674-SP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 10:46:17 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs,comp.lang.lisp Original-Lines: 78 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 116.73.35.230 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1298992001 11394 127.0.0.1 (1 Mar 2011 15:06:41 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 15:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=116.73.35.230; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101203 Firefox/3.6.13,gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:185487 comp.emacs:101200 comp.lang.lisp:300158 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:79637 Archived-At: On Mar 1, 8:02=A0pm, Cthun wrote: > On 01/03/2011 9:21 AM, Mario Lassnig wrote: > > > On 3/1/11 3:05 PM, Cthun wrote: > >> Saying version control is for novels is like saying > >> the purpose of Usenet is pointless bickering, Janney; saying it's for > >> source code is like saying the purpose of Usenet is for discussion. Yo= ur > >> mistake is rather ironic, though, considering your own considerable > >> recent contributions to the misuse of Usenet for pointless bickering, > >> Janney. > > > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do > > with Lisp, Cthun? > > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Lisp, > Lassnig? > > >> Plain, unformatted ASCII text, Janney, which is hardly useful for > >> writing novels and articles. Novels tend to contain italics and other > >> formatting here and there, Janney, whereas articles frequently contain > >> scientific and mathematical symbols that do not exist in ASCII or > >> sometimes even Unicode, and tables, graphs, charts, and formatted > >> equations that cannot be represented nicely using a grid of characters= . > > > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do > > with Lisp, Cthun? > > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Lisp, > Lassnig? > > >> Occasionally hitting control-S and backing up your > >> files regularly is a lot easier than learning Emacs, Janney. > > > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do > > with Lisp, Cthun? > > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Lisp, > Lassnig? > > >> Version control systems are inherently complex and > >> inherently client/server oriented, Janney; if they weren't they'd be > >> useless for their primary purpose, which is to enable collaborative > >> software development, Janney. > > > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do > > with Lisp, Cthun? > > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Lisp, > Lassnig? > > >> It's rather less work than struggling to learn, and later struggling t= o > >> remember, those "few key strokes in Emacs", Janney. Not to mention the > >> sprained wrists from tying your hands into pretzels trying to hit seve= n > >> different modifier keys simultaneously, Janney. Emacs is not a text > >> editor, Janney, it is a keyboard-implemented version of the game > >> "Twister". > > > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do > > with Lisp, Cthun? > > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Lisp, > Lassnig? > > >> And it remains true that using SVN to "develop" a > >> novel is like using a hammer to insert a screw, Janney. > > > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do > > with Lisp, Cthun? > > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Lisp, > Lassnig? Recursion maybe??