From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?B?7KGw7ISx67mI?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: 1L? Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 01:38:23 +0900 Message-ID: <78E370E1-10CE-4F9F-ABCD-31BBD52EC174@icloud.com> References: <86h8df7g8o.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="143297"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 07 17:39:26 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1grmhv-000b75-S4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 17:39:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43069 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grmhu-0003Uv-QC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 11:39:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39630) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grmhG-0003Sz-Vz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 11:38:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grmhC-00028u-9L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 11:38:41 -0500 Original-Received: from pv50p00im-tydg10021701.me.com ([17.58.6.54]:49558) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grmh6-00025p-Tf for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 11:38:35 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=04042017; t=1549557506; bh=7xrX3OvRANgC4NFuD4p01dclDJIaqbheyHW0SI4kW1E=; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date:Message-Id:To; b=em8ZiIPzhhEBLMnX1bdzhO0xhFGP5mVjOpqMz4kJQLlncCympCMYyCAyv6UsbMqxU 48wChlEymCqY3MivgjolZXCV7yXOxIn3WuCXOIOluou8gL+KMj9rsklSuprlMNToV8 frblZHIM+CPhuElVpv2/YLrJNe97yIH5TCyCKoCTZHcUmLsPxUwgTLWHC9/aLdgV2q eoTd22udpLsmAUpyy02o6HjDBJK0KUoHCBp9vBr/akI7xWS00ixLcYeI4g+KMW51UI CjD5T2ZVGXiaiMPFHX6MBiCTmGL1EMc+n8HE7tcs97/E3Z9pENJ/eSxnbTDgdVcWWj lbH1lgi2Llusw== Original-Received: from [192.168.0.8] (unknown [1.230.108.64]) by pv50p00im-tydg10021701.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47873900109; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:38:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16C101) In-Reply-To: <86h8df7g8o.fsf@zoho.eu> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-02-07_11:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=2 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=618 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1812120000 definitions=main-1902070126 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 17.58.6.54 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119251 Archived-At: Well, as far as I know, w3m can=E2=80=99t execute Javascript, right? It=E2=80= =99s not a viable alternative to =E2=80=98real=E2=80=99 web browsers. The reason why I said about =E2=80=98free software=E2=80=99 is because the O= P said that * He will miss the Apple ecosystem, * He said that other manufacturers (ChromeOS, System76, etc) didn=E2=80=99t l= ook serious as much as the Apple TV, * And he also specifically asked if the i3 or the i5 would be better when us= ing the new Mac Mini, but the first response (of this maillist) was, =E2=80=9CHey, use Linux! It=E2= =80=99s free, and Apple is bad... Why use Apple when they don=E2=80=99t let t= hem roll our own devices?=E2=80=9D I=E2=80=99m not saying that free software has problems, (I use them, like GN= U Emacs) but pointing Linux is irrelevant to the question. =EB=82=98=EC=9D=98 iPhone=EC=97=90=EC=84=9C =EB=B3=B4=EB=83=84 2019. 2. 8. =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 12:47, Emanuel Berg =EC=9E= =91=EC=84=B1: > =EC=A1=B0=EC=84=B1=EB=B9=88 wrote: >=20 >> Looking the thread it looks like you=E2=80=99ve used >> macOS for these years and finding a new mac >> :-) While many people in this list are >> free-software advocates and doesn=E2=80=99t like >> =E2=80=98proprietary apple software =E2=80=98 and insists on >> free software, Apple=E2=80=99s macOS is much, much >> helpful on tasks that you can=E2=80=99t solve with >> emacs (like web surfing). >=20 > You can surf the web with Emacs, e.g. using 3rd > party software Emacs-w3m which is in the Debian > [fork] repos. >=20 > And even if you don't want to do that and > instead use a web browser like Firefox what > does this has to do with macOS specifically? > There are web browsers for Linux as well :) >=20 > --=20 > underground experts united > http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 >=20 >=20