From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Info menus on text-mode terminals Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:43:34 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <7821-Sun28Sep2003234334+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> References: <2914-Sat27Sep2003130207+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1064783100 24631 80.91.224.253 (28 Sep 2003 21:05:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:05:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 28 23:04:59 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A3iix-0007vc-00 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:04:59 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A3iiw-0007wz-00 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:04:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A3icX-0003kI-A8 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:58:21 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A3icI-0003j9-6r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:58:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A3icE-0003hR-2D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:58:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.22) id 1A3iXl-0002Is-7r; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:53:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.16] (helo=frigg.inter.net.il) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A3iRC-0000DB-Ga; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:46:38 -0400 Original-Received: from zaretski ([80.230.149.110]) by frigg.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.7-GR) with ESMTP id CVC39670; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:46:33 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:34:15 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16733 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16733 > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:34:15 -0400 > > Did someone look lately at how we display Info menus on text-mode > terminals? For example, type "C-h i d m elisp RET". > > I think this is ugly, especially the way the long descriptions are > wrapped. Here's one example, indented by my by 4 characters (I also > capitalized the menu entry name, since in Emacs it stands out in > color): > > We were discussing this a month or so ago, trying to figure out how to > avoid a bunch of different problems. I think that one very general > refilling mechanism is applied to the entire Info file, and that it > uses heuristics to find the paragraph breaks that should be > maintained. I think the discussions you mentioned was about *info* buffers on X and similar windowing systems. I can hardly believe that the current display of menus on text terminals looks like it does by some design. It's more probably an oversight or a bug.