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From: Ken Raeburn <raeburn@raeburn.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Conservative GC isn't safe
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 14:09:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <781CA5B8-3DEA-43C8-B9C3-AC4AAEA21950@raeburn.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bmwzzet5.fsf@gnu.org>


> On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:37, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
>> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
>> Cc: Ken Raeburn <raeburn@raeburn.org>,  eggert@cs.ucla.edu,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 11:15:28 -0500
>> 
>>>> res = Fvector (ito - ifrom, aref_addr (string, ifrom));
>>> But 'string' still references the contents array of the vector, so GC
>>> will mark it when it comes to 'string'.
>> 
>> But after computing "aref_addr (string, ifrom)", it may very well be
>> that `string` is dead and the compiler may then decide not to write
>> it into the stack.
> 
> It will still be there in the caller.

Not if Fsubstring (or whatever function) is applied directly to the return value from some other call.  As Björn described, the caller may not keep it around at all, just shift it from register to register, and the callee can scribble over those registers.  Even if there’s an automatic variable assigned the value, if it’s not used later, the compiler may optimize it away; I’ve lost track of how many times GDB has indicated to me that it recognizes a variable name but at the current point in the code it’s been optimized out so GDB can’t show it to me.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-28 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-26  8:11 Conservative GC isn't safe Daniel Colascione
2016-11-26  8:30 ` Paul Eggert
2016-11-26  8:33   ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-26  9:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-26  9:04       ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-26  9:24         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-26 15:05         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-26 15:21           ` Camm Maguire
2016-11-28 17:51           ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-28 18:00             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-28 18:03               ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-28 18:50                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-28 18:03             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-28 19:18               ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-28 19:33                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-28 19:37                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-28 19:40                   ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-28 20:03                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-28 20:09                       ` Daniel Colascione
2016-11-28 19:26               ` Andreas Schwab
2016-11-28 19:34                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-26 15:03   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-26 15:12     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-26 16:29       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-26 16:42         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-26 18:43           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-27  6:17     ` Ken Raeburn
2016-11-27 15:39       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-28  9:50         ` Ken Raeburn
2016-11-28 15:55           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-27 16:15       ` Paul Eggert
2016-11-28  9:36         ` Ken Raeburn
2016-11-28 15:55           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-28 16:15             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-28 17:37               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-28 17:49                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-28 17:57                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-28 18:05                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-28 19:09                 ` Ken Raeburn [this message]
2016-11-28 19:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-29  8:49                     ` Ken Raeburn
2016-11-28 17:03             ` Björn Lindqvist
2016-11-28 16:13           ` Paul Eggert
2016-11-27 16:52       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-26 19:08 ` Pip Cet
2016-11-27  0:24   ` Paul Eggert

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