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From: chad <yandros@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 00:51:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <77AE2522-A2AE-40C0-BFD1-1D8FFC744551@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2ei6dy2pr.fsf@tapoueh.org>

On Mar 11, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Dimitri Fontaine wrote:

> chad <yandros@gmail.com> writes:
>> I don't understand your resistance to having the installer do the editing
>> instead of the user. This seems like a more general solution that avoids
>> some potential problems and would be useful in situations where a
>> magic directory would not (for example, where *some* configuration
>> is required but easily answered by the user).
> 
> I just frown at the idea that a *user* file is edited by anyone else
> than the user, explicitly.

Emacs' configuration file has been edited automatically by emacs since 
at least version 18.43 (the first version I used regularly).  Start emacs 
without a .emacs file and hit `C-x n n y' and see what happens.

>> The end result seems at least as user-friendly, except perhaps in a few
>> degenerate cases. What am I missing?
> 
> It's not user friendly to go edit the user file from a program in my
> book.  Like not at all.

Have you ever run any Gnome or KDE programs? I think your expectations 
of `user friendly' might not match either new or experienced emacs users.

This conversation is becoming difficult for me to continue (I'm traveling),
and it doesn't seem like it's going anywhere, so I'm going to bow out now.
Thanks for working on el-get, and I hope that it all works out in the end.

*Chad




  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-12  5:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-08 18:05 bug#8205: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir Ben Key
2011-03-08 18:48 ` bug#8205: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir (Ben Key) Ben Key
2011-03-08 18:49 ` user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir Ben Key
2011-03-08 20:01   ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-08 20:25     ` Chad Brown
2011-03-08 20:38       ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-08 22:40         ` Chad Brown
2011-03-09  9:36           ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-09 11:52             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 22:57     ` Ben Key
2011-03-09  3:28       ` Ben Key
2011-03-09  6:50         ` Ben Key
2011-03-09  7:29           ` Jan D.
2011-03-09 16:00             ` Ben Key
2011-03-09 11:39           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09 19:51       ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-09 20:08         ` Ben Key
2011-03-09 20:18         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09 20:32           ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-09 20:44             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10 11:30             ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-10 14:27               ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-10 17:23                 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-10 18:33                   ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-10 18:56                     ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-10 19:32                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-10 20:30                       ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-10 21:54                         ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-11  8:43                           ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-10 19:36                     ` Jambunathan K
2011-03-11 15:00               ` chad
2011-03-11 17:41                 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-12  5:51                   ` chad [this message]
2011-03-12 10:09                     ` Jan Djärv
2011-03-11 18:51                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-16 14:16             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-16 15:43               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-16 20:08                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17  2:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17  3:34                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17  4:42                       ` PJ Weisberg
2011-03-16 20:11               ` Evans Winner
2011-03-16 20:23                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10  2:21         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] ` <mailman.15.1299611216.4046.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-08 19:51   ` bug#8205: Closing bug#8205: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir (Ben Key) Ted Zlatanov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-03-24  0:03 user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir Ben Key
2011-03-24 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-26 11:37   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-02 18:35     ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-04  9:54       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-19  4:10 Ben Key
2011-03-19 13:29 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-19 16:07   ` Ben Key
2011-03-19 14:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-20  2:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-20 12:05   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-23 15:32     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-23 20:33       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17  4:22 Ben Key
2011-03-17  6:31 ` Evans Winner
2011-03-17 10:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 20:11   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17 21:01     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 21:05       ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-17 21:23         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 22:50           ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-18  2:46             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-18 10:56               ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-18 13:07                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-18  2:21       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-08  7:14 Ben Key
2011-03-08  9:58 ` Evans Winner
2011-03-08 18:49   ` PJ Weisberg
2011-03-01 20:32 Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-03 21:07 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04  9:55   ` Julien Danjou
2011-03-04 17:18     ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-04 18:04       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-04 18:37       ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 19:35         ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-04 19:45           ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 19:54             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-04 20:21               ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 20:25               ` Chad Brown
2011-03-04 20:46                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-05 19:24                   ` Chad Brown
2011-03-04 20:26               ` Chad Brown
2011-03-04 20:08             ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-04 20:24               ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 21:17                 ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-04 21:33                   ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 21:37                     ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-05  3:18                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-05 19:11                       ` Chad Brown
2011-03-06  7:21                       ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-07 16:24                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-07 17:18                           ` Chad Brown
2011-03-07 17:59                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 17:36                             ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-08 18:30                               ` Chad Brown
2011-03-07 17:52                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-07 20:39                             ` PJ Weisberg
2011-03-08  2:46                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-08 10:26                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 17:14                                   ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-08 18:47                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 19:23                                       ` Julien Danjou
2011-03-09  2:54                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-09 19:57                                           ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-08 20:59                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-08 21:38                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09  7:06                                       ` Jan D.
2011-03-09  7:17                                         ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-03-09 10:01                                           ` Jan Djärv
2011-03-09 17:29                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-09 18:18                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09 19:33                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-09 19:57                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10  3:20                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-10  5:01                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10  7:08                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-10 13:15                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-11  2:10                                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-09 21:57                                         ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-10  7:08                                           ` Jan Djärv
2011-03-09  6:03                                   ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-09  7:20                                     ` Jan D.
2011-03-09 23:44                                       ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-08  0:47                           ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-08 10:37                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09  6:26                               ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-09 11:26                                 ` Ted Zlatanov

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