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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:223397 Archived-At: Strong +, Maintain a couple packages and have to add boilerplate = defalias code in every single package for this. > On Mar 6, 2018, at 11:12 AM, Radon Rosborough = wrote: >=20 >> It makes no sense >> to declare these obsolete now, causing everyone work and trouble >=20 > I have personally experienced this work and trouble multiple times, > and would be very happy if I didn't have to keep dealing with it for > every package that I happen to want to use if-let and when-let in. Any > plan that does not result in those functions being made obsolete gets > my vote. >=20 > -- Radon >=20