From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14919: 24.3.50; Bad menu name: `Directory Search'. Misleading terminology used. 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X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:76543 Archived-At: This menu is apparently about directory services or directory servers. It should be called something appropriate. In Emacs generally, "directory" means a file-system directory - a folder. A directory service such as LDAP is something quite different, and this menu name is misleading. Consider perhaps `Directory Services' or `Directory Servers'. It is important to look at all of Emacs when coming up with a menu name or even a command name. It is a big mistake to look only inside an individual Lisp library, which might well use terminology limited to a particular domain. Even then, when adding such a file to Emacs, the file should be cleaned up to remove any ambiguity or confusion. In this file, most of the occurrences of "directory" are followed by "server", which is fine. But there are some, including the first lines of doc strings, that are not and that promote confusion. E.g., eudc-format-attribute-name-for-display: "Format a directory attribute name for display." eudc-print-attribute-value: "Insert the value of the directory FIELD at point." And there are others, particularly referring to "directory queries". Better to call these "directory service queries" etc. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2013-07-14 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 113423 lekktu@gmail.com-20130715004922-i67tg2ois14h3fpm Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/Devel/emacs/binary --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CFLAGS=3D'-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS=3D'-Ic:/Devel/emacs/include' LDFLAGS=3D'-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib''