From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: usability problem of emacs describe-mode Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:11:23 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <7693c514-1b79-4c0a-b9ac-09155ab15385@j38g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> References: <76fcf833-ad89-44f2-b227-e18295317ca2@p13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> <1235417304.445796@arno.fh-trier.de> <0cb0bf02-d33e-4998-bfa4-14c8c65dea35@13g2000yql.googlegroups.com> <1235517811.505527@arno.fh-trier.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1235637452 30045 80.91.229.12 (26 Feb 2009 08:37:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:37:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 26 09:38:49 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LcblY-0003X3-F0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:38:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57870 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LcbkD-0008Gg-QY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 03:37:25 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!j38g2000yqa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 32 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.175.142 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1235589083 32459 127.0.0.1 (25 Feb 2009 19:11:23 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: j38g2000yqa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.6.175.142; posting-account=bRPKjQoAAACxZsR8_VPXCX27T2YcsyMA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.27.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.2.1 Safari/525.27.1, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:167073 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 03:36:00 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:62391 Archived-At: On Feb 24, 3:22=C2=A0pm, Andreas Politz wrote: > Xah Lee wrote: > > On Feb 23, 11:27 am, Andreas Politz wrote: > >> Xah Lee wrote: > >>> usability of emacs mode documentation. > >>> emacs's describe-mode (Ctrl+h m) is really unusable. > >> [...] > > >> (defun describe-major-mode (&optional buffer) > >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0"Describe only major-mode." > >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0(interactive) > >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0(let (minor-mode-list minor-mode-alist) > >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(describe-mode buffer))) > > >> -ap > > > hi Andreas, > > > not sure if you agree or disagree with my criticism. > > My opinion on this matter is this : > Problem solved, case closed. i can't see how that is. If you think this is a problem, then your solution needs to be part of emacs for it to be considered solved. Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84