From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16074: 24.3.50; enhancement request: Remove "pop" from command names & doc for `C-(u|x) C-SPC' Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 06:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <765ae33e-8f34-4d69-9fa2-00ad24356852@default> References: <> <<87y2zh94nz.fsf@gnus.org>> <> <<87a7bxm12m.fsf@mail.linkov.net>> <<837e70h284.fsf@gnu.org>> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="256408"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, stefan@marxist.se, 16074@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 26 15:15:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i2Epz-0014bR-0w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Mon, 26 Aug 2019 13:14:14 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2ujw6hu2rn-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 26 Aug 2019 13:14:13 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0011.oracle.com (abhmp0011.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x7QDE0wA024986; Mon, 26 Aug 2019 13:14:00 GMT In-Reply-To: <<837e70h284.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4873.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9360 signatures=668684 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1908260144 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9360 signatures=668684 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1908260144 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:165901 Archived-At: > > > A position is NOT popped off the ring. That's what's > > > wrong with all of these. Likewise, the doc in the > > > manuals. > > > > > > The enhancement request is to fix this wrong > > > terminology wrt BOTH `global-mark-ring' and > > > `mark-ring'. > > > > And `yank' doesn't yank, and `kill' doesn't kill literally. >=20 > And 'window' is not a window, it's a pane; and 'frame' is actually a > window, etc. etc. And all of those terms are standard Emacs terminology, defined clearly and used consistently. That's not the case with this outlier use of "pop", which is not a pop but is exactly what Emacs calls "cycling" of a ring. And again, it's about the doc also, not just the function names.