From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Tu, Do" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: A package in a league of its own: Helm Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 07:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <75ba2f61-8bff-41dd-aee5-6ce99cedd9d7@googlegroups.com> References: <787f8d86-dede-4627-b4e5-3658a1833455@googlegroups.com> <73520ac0-9fc0-42ce-8a15-cc400b6f8308@googlegroups.com> <672a0d66-bc48-4b7a-9279-c7d631a03f79@googlegroups.com> <66ac7656-4c1a-416b-873c-88e2bad3cf83@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409668528 11645 80.91.229.3 (2 Sep 2014 14:35:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:35:28 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 02 16:35:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XOpB1-0002Rk-RJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 16:35:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38505 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XOpB1-0005PO-FS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 10:35:19 -0400 X-Received: by 10.42.212.207 with SMTP id gt15mr783103icb.31.1409668333377; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 07:32:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.77.51 with SMTP id p19mr315272igw.17.1409668333112; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 07:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!uq10no8463980igb.0!news-out.google.com!aw9ni2087igc.0!nntp.google.com!r2no12879298igi.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=14.161.13.65; posting-account=c2AWuQoAAACA36o69JJJEmXY5MOg4YNp Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 14.161.13.65 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 14:32:13 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:207325 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99602 Archived-At: V=C3=A0o 20:19:52 UTC+7 Th=E1=BB=A9 ba, ng=C3=A0y 02 th=C3=A1ng ch=C3=ADn n= =C4=83m 2014, Phil Lord =C4=91=C3=A3 vi=E1=BA=BFt: > I could rebind helm to make it use tab and delete like ido, although I >=20 > think it would still not be as nice as ido. Say I do find-file in a >=20 > directory, then select src, then uk, then ac, then ncl (as in a java >=20 > project), in ido I go C-xC-f s [rtn][rtn][rtn][rtn] because ido offers >=20 > "uk" and the others as the first completion. Helm offers "." and ".." as >=20 > the first two, so I have to do C-xCf s >=20 > [right][down][down][right][down][down][right]. Or I have to hit the >=20 > first key of "uk", then "ac" -- all of which requires thinking about. > For an edge case like that where everything is at the top, then even stock = find-file is fast. But then, your current directory contains many files the= n you may one to look around to see the files in that directory. In that ca= se, Ido cannot do it because you cannot have an actually buffer to scroll u= p/down to see. In this case, with Ido, you have to drop into Dired, look ar= ound and start ido-find-file again. > I've been using projectile, but with ido -- this is what is giving you >=20 > the completion you show? >=20 >=20 >=20 > Well, I am writing. Across the top of the helm-find-file session, my >=20 > buffer says: >=20 >=20 >=20 > C-j: Hit1 Expand Candidate, Hit2 or (C-u) Find file >=20 > find-file (`C-l': Go up one level) >=20 >=20 >=20 > What does "Hit1" and "Hit2" mean? >=20 >=20 >=20 > Phil helm-projectile is really nice but if you want to look at the current direc= tory or navigate around, you should use helm-find-files. C-j means that you= proceed to the next level, that is either a file or a directory. Hit 1 mea= ns pressing one time. Hit 2 means pressing 2 times; pres you hit C-j twices= and if your highlighting is on a file, then the file content is opened up = in another buffer. You can also press C-u in helm-find-files; its has the s= ame effect as pressing C-j twice. You can navigate the other buffer with M-= /M-. Actually, navigating back and forth with C-j/C-l is much faster than = and / since both of those keys are on the home row.