From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20183: 24.4.91; No resize handle to adjust width of Emacs windows Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 12:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <75554998-f4de-4a52-bbd1-310b648c0a32@default> References: <87d23zwmo0.fsf@moondust.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427140174 11818 80.91.229.3 (23 Mar 2015 19:49:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:49:34 +0000 (UTC) To: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 20183@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 23 20:49:22 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ya8Lb-0004F2-IE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 20:49:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57775 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ya8LV-0006fz-RM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:49:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60971) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ya8LS-0006fj-8d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:49:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ya8LO-0006Qn-8j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:49:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44389) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ya8LO-0006Qj-4t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:49:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ya8LN-00007h-Km for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:49:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20183 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20183-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20183.1427140128450 (code B ref 20183); Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:49:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20183) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Mar 2015 19:48:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34165 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ya8LA-00007C-1K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:48:48 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:20590) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ya8L7-00006x-Px for 20183@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:48:46 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t2NJmdbG014390 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:48:39 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t2NJmc3Q014410 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:48:38 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0017.oracle.com (abhmp0017.oracle.com [141.146.116.23]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t2NJmcwp012658; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:48:38 GMT In-Reply-To: <87d23zwmo0.fsf@moondust.localdomain> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:100859 Archived-At: Actually, there is. But it is carefully hidden. ;-) In the mode line there is a tiny vertical line separating the mode lines of= the two side-by-side windows. That's the handle - you can drag it left & r= ight. If you want a more visible and substantial divider then you can customize `default-frame-alist' to have it include an entry such as this: (right-divider-width . 3) IOW, you can set frame parameter `right-divider-width' to make the divider appear (!) and offer an affordance (handle) that you can drag. For the window bottom, you can drag the mode line. And for this there is also frame parameter `bottom-divider-width'. FWIW, Emacs used to have a more visible handle for dragging left-right. But its GUI was improved (long ago, now), and it was removed in the process. FWIW2, I think the default values of `right-divider-width' and `bottom-divider-width' should be non-zero - to make these dividers visible & usable. The default values of zero make dragging left-right non-obvious. At least you can drag the mode line (i.e., even with a zero value for `bottom-divider-width'). Another problem is discovery of these frame parameters (there are no user options for these things, other than the `*-frame-alist' options). And even if they were made aware of these frame parameters, my guess is that many users would not know how to customize Emacs to set them. HTH. > There are resize handles to adjust the height and width of an Emacs > frame; and there is a resize handle to adjust the height of an Emacs > window (when there is more than one window tiled vertically > (above/below) on a frame); but there is _no_ resize handle to adjust the > width of an Emacs window (when there is more than one window tiled > horizontally (side-by-side) on a frame. >=20 > This can be observed from emacs -Q. >=20 > I'm not sure if this is a bug or a missing feature.