From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Split `simple.el'? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:224295 Archived-At: > > the problem he's having is due to the value of > > password-word-equivalents, >=20 > Bingo! At least it seems you're right. > I tried `C-h v password-word-equivalents', without visiting > simple.el, and I suffered an even worse delay (_many_ minutes). >=20 > How did you know? >=20 > > a defcustom that doesn't really belong in > > simple.el. A better home would be lisp/international/mule-conf.el, say. >=20 > Thank you! >=20 > As I said, I go to simple.el quite often, to see some code. > And I doubt that I will ever need to go there to see code > that involves non-ASCII chars. >=20 > For me, at least, splitting the file into SIMPLE simple and > FANCY "simple", would be great. (Yes, I know that one person's > fancy is another person's simple.) And once I've shown the doc string of `password-word-equivalents', when I then visit simple.el for the first time it is much quicker (30 sec instead of over 2 minutes).