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[5.44.169.188]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id p13-20020a4ad44d000000b005990bd1e1dcsm1141585oos.17.2024.01.28.08.35.13 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Jan 2024 08:35:15 -0800 (PST) Content-Language: en-US, ru-RU Mail-Followup-To: rms@gnu.org, Stefan Kangas , 68687@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:279091 gmane.emacs.orgmode:159375 Archived-At: On 27/01/2024 10:38, Richard Stallman wrote: > > What is the purpose for which text/org would be used? > In what situations would we want to send files in Org format > and why would it be useful to formally label them? I am rather confused by these questions. Media types appears in the Content-Type header. Applications decide how to treat content basing on media type description. E.g. Thunderbird may be configured to display text attachments inline, but if the same attachment uses application/vnd.lotus-organizer then an external application must be invoked to see its text. De-facto Org files are used in various projects. Received or fetched Org files must be treated with some precautions, but it is another story. 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Received or fetched Org files must be treated with some precautions, but it is another story.