From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: german quotes and mule Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:33:37 +0100 Message-ID: <74C39988-D42F-4788-A4DC-30EB6A78C4C9@Web.DE> References: <1pna74-n7f.ln1@avaloon.forwiss.uni-passau.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1168385711 11152 80.91.229.12 (9 Jan 2007 23:35:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 23:35:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 10 00:35:09 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H4QUl-0003Vg-BQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:35:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H4QUk-0007my-Ge for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:35:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H4QUH-0007kr-Qa for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:34:37 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H4QUF-0007iz-Fl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:34:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H4QUF-0007it-9e for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:34:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [217.72.192.227] (helo=fmmailgate02.web.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H4QUE-0007uL-Ic for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:34:34 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBC24F77869; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:33:41 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [87.193.40.178] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.107 #114) id 1H4QTN-0008Pu-00; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:33:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Image-Url: http://homepage.mac.com/sparifankal/.cv/thumbs/me.thumbnail Original-To: berberic@fmi.uni-passau.de X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:40202 Archived-At: Am 09.01.2007 um 22:50 schrieb M G Berberich: >> How is it when you launch Unicode Emacs 23 with -Q, i.e. no >> initialisation files? > > If I launch my emacs with =BB-Q=AB it is exactly the same. > Your emacs display =BB=84=93=82=91=85=AB O.K.? Yes. It happens for a few Unicode fonts right. > >> I don't see in *Messages* any hints of any mule >> =96 and it simply works. > > I have a =BBOptions=AB -> =BBMule (Multilingual Environment)=AB Menu = in > my emacs, so I suppose I have mule. There are also > mule-cmds.elc, mule-conf.el, mule-diag.elc, mule.elc, mule-util.elc > in /usr/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/international/mule. Well, the menu's title is just its title, going back to GNU Emacs 20. =20= Parts of MULE are probably really used when you need to convert a =20 file or when you type C-u C-x =3D on some character ... I get for example: character: =84 (8222, #o20036, #x201e) preferred charset: iso-8859-13 (ISO/IEC 8859/13) code point: 0xA5 syntax: . which means: punctuation buffer code: #xE2 #x80 #x9E file code: #xE2 #x80 #x9E (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix) display: by this font (glyph code) -B&H-LucidaTypewriter-Medium-R-Normal-Sans-10-100-75-75-M-60-=20 ISO10646-1 (#x201E) character: =93 (8220, #o20034, #x201c) preferred charset: iso-8859-13 (ISO/IEC 8859/13) code point: 0xB4 syntax: . which means: punctuation category: c:Chinese h:Korean j:Japanese buffer code: #xE2 #x80 #x9C file code: #xE2 #x80 #x9C (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix) display: by this font (glyph code) -B&H-LucidaTypewriter-Medium-R-Normal-Sans-10-100-75-75-M-60-=20 ISO10646-1 (#x201C) -- Mit friedvollen Gr=FC=DFen Pete If you're not confused, you're not paying attention.