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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master 7362554: Widen around c-font-lock-fontify-region. This fixes bug #38049.
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 15:36:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7497e71d-bab6-fa04-bbc4-f52fadeda16d@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191111203445.GA5135@ACM>

Hi Alan,

On 11.11.2019 22:34, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 18:52:34 +0200, Dmitry Gutov wrote:
>> On 09.11.2019 16:40, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>> +    (widen)
> 
>> Could you try and honor font-lock-dont-widen here?
> 
> Difficult.  In CC Mode it is sometimes necessary to enlarge a font lock
> region so as to get the context needed to parse some element of the
> buffer.  This was what gave rise to the bug.

Did that really happen in the reported scenario? I mean, 
font-lock-dont-widen is usually nil, so font-lock will call widen for 
you already.

> In all of Emacs, there's just one use of font-lock-dont-widen, in
> rmail.el, and that is almost certainly for a different reason than your
> use of it (which is, I believe, having several major modes in a single
> buffer).

Does RMail use it for quoted pirces of code? If so, it would be similar.

> Could you, perhaps, suggest some alternative to using widen in
> c-font-lock-fontify-region?  Some way which would still work for CC Mode
> (including the just fixed bug), but wouldn't adversely affect the
> several major mode code you're maintaining?  Would it be possible to
> widen "a bit" rather than widening to the whole buffer?  If so, how
> would I determine the bit to widen to?

Not sure what difference the supposed "bit" would make (and thus, how 
would mmm-mode determine it). But I think that would depend on your 
answer to my first question in this email. Because, I think, normally 
you don't "have to" widen at all, font-lock will do that for you.

In mmm-mode context, however, we apply definite boundaries to the region 
chunks. Here's an example of some Noweb code: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noweb#Example_of_a_simple_noweb_program

The inside of hello.c block would be narrowed to.

Now, I have remembered that CC Mode calls widen from many places 
already, so it already is problematic for using in a context like that. 
Thus this particular change doesn't change the picture much, and so 
please feel free to drop this conversation at any point of time.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-12 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20191109144026.20810.76129@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20191109144027.DDC3720927@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2019-11-11 16:52   ` master 7362554: Widen around c-font-lock-fontify-region. This fixes bug #38049 Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-11 20:34     ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-11-12 13:36       ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2019-11-13 21:19         ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-11-13 22:33           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14 13:42             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-14 14:05               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14 14:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 14:35                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14 14:48                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 14:50                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14 16:08                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 21:07                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-15  9:31                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-15 10:24                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-15 13:00                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 13:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 14:08               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14 14:37             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14 14:55               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-14 15:02                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14 15:33                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-14 16:12                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 18:51                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-14 19:19                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 19:48                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14 19:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 19:59                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-15  7:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-15  7:52                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14 21:29                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-14 21:46                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-15  9:36                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-15 10:26                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-15 23:27                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-16  8:02                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17  0:50                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-17  3:33                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17  7:36                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-17 15:44                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17 17:59                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-17 18:26                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17 18:35                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14 19:58                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14 21:24             ` Several Major Modes. [Was: master 7362554: Widen around c-font-lock-fontify-region. This fixes bug #38049.] Alan Mackenzie
2019-11-14 22:11               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-15 20:10                 ` Several Major Modes Alan Mackenzie
2019-11-15 21:45                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-16 13:10                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-11-17 12:48                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-17 16:03                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-11-17 21:56                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14 13:35           ` master 7362554: Widen around c-font-lock-fontify-region. This fixes bug #38049 Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-15 22:43           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14 12:02         ` Eli Zaretskii

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