From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Savannah-hackers] [alexl@users.sourceforge.net: Jan's Gtk CVS notifications...?] Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:56:07 +0300 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <7458-Sat25Jan2003195606+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> References: <7u65shsxrd.fsf@allele2.biol.berkeley.edu> <20030123120046.B397@fe.up.pt> <20030123145449.FEDF.LEKTU@terra.es> <200301232324.IAA08838@etlken.m17n.org> <20030124012638.D420@fe.up.pt> <5xof664rp8.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <4634-Fri24Jan2003215430+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> <5xwuku5ijy.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1043517561 32326 80.91.224.249 (25 Jan 2003 17:59:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18cUaM-0008P0-00 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:59:18 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18cUdh-0003ex-00 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:02:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18cUa8-0002RQ-01 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:59:04 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18cUZa-0001Wn-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:58:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18cUZM-00014A-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:58:17 -0500 Original-Received: from gandalf.inter.net.il ([192.114.186.22]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18cUZK-0000wU-00; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:58:14 -0500 Original-Received: from zaretsky ([80.230.234.38]) by gandalf.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ADT12924; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:57:59 +0200 (IST) Original-To: storm@cua.dk X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: <5xwuku5ijy.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> (storm@cua.dk) Original-cc: villate@gnu.org Original-cc: savannah-hackers@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:11050 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:11050 > From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) > Date: 24 Jan 2003 22:44:49 +0100 > > > I don't use CVS/ssh, and cannot easily do so. If the old repository > > is eliminated, I will have no way to check in changes, not even by > > logging into gnu.org machines (since my login there is effectively > > disabled by the requirement to install SSHv2 clients). > > > > CVS access uses ssh v1. Yes, I know that. What I meant to say is that my home machine runs Windows, where I have a CVS port installed that doesn't support SSH at all. That port is well configured and set up, and served me well for 2 years; I'm accustomed to it, including a couple of Windows-related quirks. Given the total lack of free time, I cannot afford installing and configuring another port, even if it's not the Cygwin port (the latter would mean I also need to install gobs of related and semi-related packages I don't really need, which will interfere with my system setup that is not based on Cygwin). Installing a free OS is also impractical, for the same reasons: I simply don't have enough time to become a full-time system manager for an OS of which my current knowledge level is at best that of a sophisticated user. I do have a working SSHv1 setup on my home machine that supports telnet and scp, so I could remedy the problem with CVS by logging into gnu.org and committing changes from there. However, that approach, too, was closed to me when gnu.org went to SSHv2. Moving to SSHv2 on my home machine would again require installing, configuring, and learning to use packages for which I don't have time. > > However, since lately I seldom check in anything, I'm not sure you > > should keep the old repository just for my sake. > > Sorry I jumped to conclusions... but as I understand the message from > Jaime, it is only a question of time before the :pserver: write access > is disabled... Yes, I knew that for some time now. That's why I'm not sure my problems are important enough for you to avoid doing that now.