From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Divergence in menu appearance between Emacs Info and standalone Info Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 12:46:41 +0300 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <7458-Fri06Jun2003124641+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> References: <200306041404.h54E4SO30552@f7.net> <200306041501.h54F1Tq3025762@rum.cs.yale.edu> <2110-Wed04Jun2003182418+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> <200306041531.h54FV9Qs025989@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200306041655.h54Gt6C26152@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <200306041714.h54HEURm026453@rum.cs.yale.edu> <7458-Thu05Jun2003085253+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> <200306051335.h55DZgVX031874@rum.cs.yale.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054893146 1178 80.91.224.249 (6 Jun 2003 09:52:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: karl@freefriends.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 06 11:52:24 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ODtY-0000Is-00 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 11:52:24 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19OEC3-0005UO-00 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 12:11:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ODus-0002U8-8o for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 05:53:46 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19ODpb-0007oL-JR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 05:48:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19ODoZ-000753-Ix for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 05:47:16 -0400 Original-Received: from gandalf.inter.net.il ([192.114.186.22]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ODna-0006Nb-Mq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 05:46:14 -0400 Original-Received: from zaretsky (cable-129-113.inter.net.il [213.8.129.113]) by gandalf.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.5-GR) with ESMTP id AUE48836; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:46:04 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: <200306051335.h55DZgVX031874@rum.cs.yale.edu> (monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu) Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14814 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14814 > From: "Stefan Monnier" > Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 09:35:42 -0400 > > > > From: "Stefan Monnier" > > > Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 13:14:30 -0400 > > > > > > 2 - (info "") is a better way than using `g' since the `somebody' > > > can just click on it (or hit C-x C-e). > > > > That requires to use "M-:", which, I think, many Emacs users don't use > > (if they even know about it). > > Funny, I never thought about using M-: to evaluate it. > I'd only ever seen mentioned C-x C-e. You are nitpicking, Stefan: does the difference really matter, except if you want to annoy at all costs? M-: and C-x C-e are equally unused by many Emacs users. I'd dare to say that only those of them who wrote some Lisp know about these commands (or evaluation in general). > But the thing is (or should be if it's not for you) highlighted > and clickable, provided you read it in Gnus. So we have 2 conditions: read it in Gnus and on a graphics display. What about when these conditions are not met? > And it's a lot > more user-readable than C-h i g (you don't have to interpret it > as a command, but just as a special syntax). I have a difficulty parsing this, but you don't have to explain, since it seems like a moot point anyway.