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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250634 Archived-At: On 17.05.2020 12:07, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > Btw, I tried emacs-maple-minibuffer earlier today and there must be an issue with my configuration because I had remnants of windows in the desktop file that would float over my frames and just would not go away even after a restart. I had to manually edit the desktop file to make them go away, plus the echo area was not handled by the new windows so I had a minibuffer floating window and the echo remained at the bottom of the frame. It was confusing. But that's a different subject... Yes, it's not perfect, but it seemed the most stable out of all similar packages that I tried (there are several). This could be another good reason to bring it inside the core, to review the code with more experienced eyes.